Finding Amy’s Killer: A Talk with the Author
[CR Note: In 1989, 10 year-old Amy Mihaljevic was abducted in broad daylight across the street from the Bay Village (Ohio) Police Department. Four months later, her body was discovered lying face-down in a rural Ohio wheat field. No one has ever been charged with the crime. But new clues reveal disturbing glimpses of Amy's last hours and suggest that resolution may still be possible. Journalist James Renner has written a fascinating (and touching) account of the still-unsolved case, AMY: MY SEARCH FOR HER KILLER. Recently, Jim sat down with Crime Rant for an interview.]
CR: First of all, congrats on the new book. First book. There are other unsolved murders in Northeast Ohio, including other child-abduction cases. Why did you choose to write about Amy Mihaljevic?
JS: This is the one that affected me. I was about the same age as Amy in 1989, when she was abducted. I followed the story closely. I wanted to find her—I actually looked for her in crowds whenever I would go to the mall or out in the street. I was heartbroken when her body was discovered in February 1990. It was the first time I realized that there were adults out there who could do evil things.
CR: Have you written about crime before?
JR: As a journalist I have written about a number of crimes. I followed the rules of journalism in all cases—except for Amy Mihaljevic. I tossed out the rules for this case because it was so personal to me. I lied to people, I talked my way into places I shouldn’t have been in, and I stood on the thin line between what is legal and what is not in order to get the answers I needed. I’m comfortable with that decision.
CR: While the book is about Amy Mihaljevic, it’s also about you and how you investigated the case. Why did you decide to put yourself in the book?
JR: I don’t think I could have written it any other way. Pretty early on I realized that I would be a part of the book. First, I wanted to tell how this affected me and let that serve as an example for the hundreds of other people who have been touched by similar crimes. Also, the writing process itself became part of the story. I basically lost my job because of this article and nearly lost my sanity over it.
CR: How did Amy’s family and friends feel about your investigating the story?
JR: For the most part everybody was supportive. They want to share this information so that Amy’s killer can be found. The family was pretty open, and they provided me with photographs. Amy’s friends helped give me insight into Amy’s personality.
CR: Did law enforcement officials help you with your research?
JR: The police and FBI were a little bit more guarded with their information. When I discovered information and discussed it with them, they would talk about it and maybe confirm it and give me a little more on that subject, but they wouldn’t just hand me information. Some retired law enforcement officials were more forthcoming, though.
CR: Were other people involved in the case helpful to you?
JR: Some were, some weren’t. I believe that the more information, the more clues we share with the public, the quicker we’re going to solve this case. But there were some individuals—I call them “Gollums” in the book—who hold onto tiny bits of information they have about the case. It’s their precious little ring that they covet and admire, and they don’t want to give it up to anybody because it makes them feel special. Whenever I met a person like that, I made it a point to find out their information no matter how difficult that was.
CR: During your investigation you found yourself in several tense situations. Did you ever fear for your life?
JR: One time I found myself in a crawlspace behind a tiny door inside a possible suspect’s apartment, looking for clues back there, and I came across a hidden nook where someone had scribbled all sorts of messages on the wall. The owner of the house could have come home at any time, and it wasn’t a good situation for me to be in. The jogger who found Amy’s body helped me track down an individual who so closely resembled the police sketch he was like its three dimensional twin. The moment I met him we kind of surprised each other. Whether or not I should have, I certainly feared for my safety at that moment.
CR: This crime is closely associated with Bay Village where the famous Sam Sheppard murder case also occurred. Any parallels between the two cases?
JR: That was one of the more interesting things I found in my research, the way in which the Sheppard case and the Mihaljevic case kind of intertwined. I don’t really know what it means, but the Mihaljevics moved to Bay Village thirty years to the day after Marilyn Sheppard was murdered. And Sam Reese Sheppard, Sam and Marilyn’s only child, moved away from Bay Village in the 1970s and didn’t return to the area until October 27th, 1989—the day Amy was abducted. He came back to town to give a speech at the City Club to try to get Bay Village to reopen his mother’s case and find the real killer. Not too many people noticed, though, because the next day Amy’s face was all over the newspaper. Also, one of the first responding officers to the Sheppard crime scene was a man named Gareu; his nephew was the chief of police in Bay Village when Amy was taken. Just little odd things like that.
CR: What new clues about the case are revealed in AMY?
JS: A number of things that had been falsely reported are reported accurately for the first time in my book. For example, the fact that Amy was kept alive for a number of days, maybe weeks. Her last meal was some sort of soy-based product, possible an energy bar or maybe Chinese food. So someone was keeping her alive somewhere. Amy was not raped. When she was discovered in that field in Ashland County in February of 1990 she had only been there for perhaps 24 hours, maybe as long as three days. She hadn’t been there very long. Her body had been very well preserved. She had been kept somewhere cool somewhere outside, maybe inside of a hunting cabin or a fishing lodge somewhere that didn’t have heat. I was able to reconstruct a minute-by-minute account of Amy’s last day before her abduction. I’ve spoken to just about everybody who was in the plaza at the time. I’ve got the first-ever interview with a confirmed eyewitness of the abduction.
CR: Do you plan on continuing your search?
JS: It isn’t really something I can let go of, for better or for worse. I do believe there are enough clues and new information that if the right person reads this book, the case can be solved. I’ll be writing about any new developments in the ase on my blog. But I feel that the book itself is a complete story. Even if it lacks a solution to Amy’s case, I think there is a resolution there.
CR: All authors learn something from each book. What did you learn?
JR: We live in a community of fear, which has certainly never been more true. I think we may deserve that way of life because we don’t make a point to know each other any more, to get to know our neighbors or the people who our kids are friends with. We shut ourselves off from the world, and that, unfortunately, leads to things like this, where girls can be taken in broad daylight across the street from a police station and nobody notices.
November 26th, 2006 at 8:03 am
Was there child pornography pictures found with her in them? I am trying to understand why someone would abduct her if not to rape…and why that person called her to arrange a meeting.
I know…I know…read the book(heh, heh, heh)
November 26th, 2006 at 8:10 am
I love author interviews. I look forward to more.
November 26th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Excellent interview, and my interest is extremely peaked – I’ll be buying this book shortly. Thanks for sharing James!
November 26th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Interesting story, but what I find even more so is the fact that this author has allowed himself to lose so much in his personal life for a complete stranger and her story–that is in my honest opinion tellingly strange in and of itself. Hmmmm I wonder, can anyone say Dexter?!
Cricket
November 26th, 2006 at 11:32 am
OOPS Department: Just kidding but would make a great story huh…giggle.
Cricket
November 27th, 2006 at 7:19 am
I will definately be buying this book. The fact that this little girl’s disapperance moved the author so much is heartbreaking, and yet, his tenacity and refusal to give up just may make all the difference. Hopefully this case will be solved soon and Amy can rest in peace.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:06 am
I think that if a large segement of the public buys this book, it will put pressure on this police department and all other jurisdictions of future occurences to be more diligent and hopefully, competent.
November 27th, 2006 at 9:15 am
Why did the Police say that the body was decomposed and James says that the body was very well preserved? The person that found the body, what do they say?
How did the killer know Amy? Obviously he knew something, he knew enough to find a phone number and contact her. I’d think that someone is/has over-looked the key to this puzzle because it’s probably hiding right in plain sight!
Why did the volunteer in the search commit suicide if he wasn’t connected to the crime or at least know someone who was? Was he just another lost soul looking for salvation via a good deed!
Not being able to solve these crimes can be the worst for all involved. I’ve always wondered how that can happen. Indeed the obvious can sometimes be so obscure.
Mark
November 27th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
Very interesting comments. I’m glad to see the book touched a nerve. A couple specific answers: Mark–the state of decomposition of Amy’s body led officials to believe that she had been murdered in late October/early November and that her body had been stored someplace relatively cool, but away from the elements. Possibly a fishing cabin or a hunting lodge…maybe a cool basement. Bugs found on her body led officials to believe that her body had been placed in that field a night or two before it was found. So, why did this guy move the body? Were the police and FBI getting too close?
Pati–there are rumors circulating that Amy was seen in a child porn video with one of the suspects. But this has never been confirmed, and the best I could do was to hear it from some guy who claimed “a friend” of his had seen it playing in the back room of a local Eagles Club.
Cricket–The best answer I can give you is that I was just a few months older than Amy herself at the time of her abduction. It had a huge impact on me, because it was the first time in my life I realized there were adults out there who could do evil things. The event influenced my life even though I did not grow up in the same neighborhood. Beyond that, there are some interesting similarities between Amy’s mother and my own mother. I wanted to explore those themes during my research. I think it works. But let me know what you think after you’ve given it a read.
-James Renner
November 27th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
James, Thank you for filling us in on some details and I will definitely read your book.
November 27th, 2006 at 6:58 pm
This interview was very informative and has made me interested in reading this book. I will be adding this book to my list of books I want to read.
November 27th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
James,
is it possible that the person or persons involved in this crime still live in the area? Also, child porn movie, really, I would think that something to be very difficult to keep quiet in 1989 mid-America, especially in the back room of an Eagles club. Thinking about keeping a body cold enough to ward off decomp, why~ trophy? There would be others if that were the case, and if authorities were getting too close then I’d expect that they would have made a move by now!
Terrible thing, especially when the cops chase their tails! Broad daylight was it? Shameful!
Mark
November 28th, 2006 at 7:40 am
You have definately intrigued me. I will be adding this book to my list to buy. heh. I just looked up and saw I basically posted the same thing Nelly did. Great minds?
November 28th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
James, child porn movie, huh? Why doesn’t that surprise me? How does that work, do the police go through all their confiscated movies and see if they recognize a child that’s been missing? I’d really be interested to know how many tapes the police have from that timeframe and watch them myself, although I’d require a barf bag to do so. Is there anyway to follow up on this piece of your research? Can the person that saw it at the lodge tell you anything else?
November 28th, 2006 at 2:07 pm
On the subject of the child porn tape: this is only rumor and has not been substantiated. I actually do not believe that it exists. But there were people who told me that “a friend of a friend of a friend” has seen it. Cases like this tend to slip into myth and legend after several years.
Also, the police detectives and FBI still passionately follow up every lead they get. It’s not for lack of trying that this case has not been solved. I believe when we finally figure it out, the solution will be very odd an unexpected, indeed.
November 28th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
Okay, so everything you know about this little girl, the one haunting piece is that the perp may have known her. I’m sure, not having read the book yet, that you’re following up on this for sure. Based on the circumstances, it seems odd that a stranger could have commited this crime?
November 28th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
I agree with Kimpossible, one or more of the perps knew her and he/they is/are sitting right under their noses.
November 28th, 2006 at 6:59 pm
Thanks James for the clerification.
Already bought it and anxiously waiting on Amazon to deliver so I can start reading it–will let you know when I’m done what I really think.
As for the CR Interview piece–good work.
Cricket
November 29th, 2006 at 7:47 am
James – just ordered my book!
November 29th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Yes. We’re quite sure this person was close to Amy. If she didn’t know him directly, she knew his sister, or daughter, or relative of some sort. It had to have been someone who was familiar with that shopping plaza in Bay Village and also the desolate road in Ashland County (an hour’s drive south) where her body was discovered. It’s a hard place to find. You don’t just end up there.
November 29th, 2006 at 2:06 pm
okay, I’m ordering the book.
November 29th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
I think you got me sold on this one too. Thank goodness for b-day gift cards!
November 29th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
I also eagerly await my copy of the book.
December 1st, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Yeahhhhh my book arrived today–be back later, going to go read what looks like a great book–see ya!
Cricket
December 4th, 2006 at 11:01 am
I just purchased this book yesterday and read it in one sitting. It is so very well written, you cannot put this book down. I was 20 years old at the time of horrendous situation and also living in the Cleveland area. To this day, the murder of this beautiful young girl totally saddens me. Kudos to you James for being so dedicated in solving this crime. I hope one day peace can be found for Amy and her famiy.
December 4th, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Please be aware that there is a few others that have kept up with this case who also have books about the case from the begining.
Books with the real facts, not just partly true.
Who did not omitt all the findings.Which are very disturbing!
December 5th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Blanch Simon,
There is, indeed, a lot of rumor and myth surrounding Amy’s case. Unfortunately a lot of those rumors are taken as fact by many of the people I spoke to (for instance, that this was a satanic killing, or that Amy’s father was in the Witness Protection program). I’d be interested to know what facts you feel have been omitted. I, too, believe that the more we know about this case, the better chance it has of being solved.
Feel free to contact me at jrenner@freetimes.com
-James
December 7th, 2006 at 5:17 am
James is that you on the cover near the bushes searching/walking? Just curious.
And Blanch, I too would be interested in knowing what facts you feel were omitted, and thus this book is only partly true. Also what other books are out there already written about Amy?
Sadly this was the first time I had ever heard of her, and her story reminds me of another little Ohio girl that vanished into thin air, however her body has never been found–Beverly Potts. Thanks.
Cricket
December 7th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Cricket,
I suspect what Blanch is referring to are the rumors about satanic cults, witness protection, and other scuttlebutt that really has no basis in fact. But again, I’d love to be proven wrong. I just want to find this guy.
Yes, the Beverly Potts abduction is very interesting. I don’t think the two cases are linked, because they happened many years apart, but it’s worth noting that one of the prime suspect’s brothers (in the Amy case) lived on the same street where Potts was last seen.
-James
December 7th, 2006 at 9:49 am
Also, I’ve been updating the investigation as it continues over at http://www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com
-James
January 5th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
have you seen the other web sight yet?
http://www.amymihaljevicsleuthmaster.blogspot.com
January 6th, 2007 at 1:33 am
Who is this Kurt who now has a blog on Amy’s investigation?
How is he going to get these answers that those who have tried for 16 years haven’t been able to? And, why?
January 6th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
I suspect he is just someone else that stayed with the case and knows more than Renner is able to say,or won’t say. My guess would be he wants this case over just like the rest of us. Maybe he concentrated on just one area in Renners book and found out something he didn’t. By the way he talks there is more than one person running that sight.Could prove to be interesting. If you look at it like this, Renner gave this case what two yrs. and this person 17, I’d say that makes all the difference in the world.Time will tell.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:48 am
I have to say the book was wonderful. I too, could not put it down and read it in one day. I live VERY near where her body was found and after reading the book still believe what I have ALWAYS believed: the person who did this has to live in the New London/Nova/Ruggles area! No one could have picked this place out of the clear blue sky. I remember being terrified when she was abducted and then when her body was found so very close to my home I was absolutly AFRAID to go any where. Things like this do not happen in New London!! It has always been a case of interest to me. Thank you James for doing what you are to help find the person(s) that did this too this little girl. God Bless you!
January 20th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
I highly agree with Ann, only about the Killer living in the New London/Nova/Ruggles area.Mr. Renner pretty much blew off this area of the state. He also made the people in the book sound like nut cases that lived there.The chapter names said it all. The only thing that Renner has done for this case is as stated before, he brought it to the forefront again.
January 21st, 2007 at 8:03 am
Blanch: the people in the book, Donny Parsons and Terry and Jerry are nut cases, but the people in this area know them and realize this very much so. I personally know all 3 of them and I also know Paula Varney she isn’t nuts at all, She is a very nice person and I would take what she says to heart. She isn’t the type of person that would say something of this nature, if she didn’t believe it to be true. Now the other man the dead ringer to the picture, I am not sure who he is yet, I actually am planning on driving out there and trying to see where he lives, my father is from that school district and knows alot of folks out that way, so we are planning on going out there. I actually only live about 2 miles from where she was found, (in the southeast corner of New London.) But as far as Donny and the “twin bodygaurds” they are absolutely NUTS! I know Donny’s family VERY well, and I know Terry well. I guess if you knew them you would look at what was said differently. Living in New London my whole life I guess I have a different outlook on this. We don’t have people that have killed people in our “Mayberry” town, we have ONE red light! I think that everyone in New London should read this book, so that they are aware of what is still going on.
January 21st, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Ann, what kind of things have you heard about that cabin? Are you talking about the fire, or the accidentel shooting or what. If you know the area so well and your little “Mayberry” town” then you would also know that there is ONE person that fits all the things in the 10 yr. FBI profile then. It doesn’t sound to me as you do in your comments.Oh bye the way I do know that area very well also.That book is a waste of time to anyone wanting to find out who killed Amy in the area she was found in. It doesn’t even begin to talk about the real people there, how about the ones that just up and disappeared?Have you also heard that?
January 21st, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Oh I have heard of the guy that just up and disappeared around the same time. I have also heard from a woman in Fitchville, that she believes it was another man that has recently passed away but I don’t know. All I was saying was that I have lived in this area my whole life. I have lived in the house I live in now since I was a very young child and it is located VERY near where she was found. I will say New London has alot of drug problems and some small theft issues but I am unaware of any other problems. But then again I don’t “look” for these problems either. So you say you know the area well then you are from this area? The exact area she was found is not a common place. The people that I personally know that have been to the cabin and have “run” around with the men that do stay there are the kind of people that you wouldn’t leave alone with your dog, little lone your child. All I was saying is that this is not a town where things like this happen on normal basis. I know better than most what really can happen in this little town, I had a tragic event in my life happen because of this town! It just isn’t “normal” for this area.
January 21st, 2007 at 5:15 pm
have you heard of witchcraft going on near that cabin?Did the person that the fitchville woman said , have initials BD, or RD?or WS or FM do you know?
January 21st, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Ann,
I use to visit a friend in that area yrs. ago. They moved away after certain things happened to them. Sounds like it happened to you too. Did it have to do with a van and Norwalk? Do you know what I’m talking about?
January 21st, 2007 at 7:32 pm
No my circumstances were drug related and had to do with Greenwich and Willard. And No sorry not sure about what it is your talking about, I do have a little bit of an idea but not something I would openly say anything about, I value my life!
January 21st, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Now when I was younger (teen age) I knew “of” some people out that way that were rumored to be into Satin worshiping, but again I don’t know that at all, just something I have heard of, I know there was some concern for cats in that area of time. But actual witch craft, not that I know of but as I have already stated I don’t “look” for things in this town I try to mind my own business!
January 21st, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Ann,
had you ever heard of Amy’s mother margaret being out here in the area prior to Amy’s death?
Do you think that Amy was killed here? Have you ever heard of that Bill Hayes Guy that Renner talks about in the book?
January 21st, 2007 at 8:34 pm
I hadn’t heard of her mother being out her until i read the book, but as I stated earlier, Paula Varney is not the kind of person that would have said something she didn’t believe to be true. I have known Paula for a long time. I am not aware of a Bill Hayes, but then I do not remember names very well. As for her being killed here, I don’t have any idea it scares me to think that it might be a possiblity. You said “here” are you from this area now? As I previously stated I was young when this all happened and it has always scared me and been of interest to me, nothing more. And from living in this area, I have as everyone else in the area has of the rumors that floated around from the very begining.
January 21st, 2007 at 8:35 pm
As far as her mother being out here, it puts a different light on the whole tragic event, in my opinion.
January 22nd, 2007 at 10:43 am
No, I ment to say there, sorry. Can you talk about some of the rumors you heard back at that time? I was wondering about that cabin, do you happen to know whether or not those people are all relatives. I had heard that some of them were and then they sold the place a few times ,however the people it was sold to were more relitives.It sounded to me as if they were keeping the place in the family just changeing which family member held ownership. I had heard at one point also that it was a cop from Ashland trying to protect someone in his family, have you ever heard that? I had even herad that drugs were involved would you happen to have herad these samethings? I pretty much blew them all off as it sounded to me like everybody wanted in on the act, not thinking just how terrible Amy being killed was.
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:21 pm
I really haven’t heard all that much, I know a man that was not related that “stayed” out there at one point in time, He said it wouldn’t surprise him at all if they had done something like that to a child, he later spent 10 years in prison for beating up some woman. He was a HEAVY Drug user so it wouldn’t surprise me at all that it was drug related. I am not that familiar with Ashland county cops, now if it were Huron County I wouldn’t be surprised at all to hear that, they are a ‘joke’ the whole department!! I don’t actually know ‘who’ owns that cabin, Paula Varney would know. She has a business in Ruggles, I’d ask her!
January 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
can you say what that guy’s first name was? I don’t think I’ve heard anything on him.Do you know anyone in Huron county that would tell of any rumors they might have heard back around that time.I drove to that area where Paula Varney has a store early yesterday and the sign said it was closed Sunday-Monday. So I’ll have to waite till I’m back in that area and the weather is better again before I’ll be able to talk with her.I did hear that the phone call to the TV station where the person asked for money came from the Sullivan area.Did you hear this too?
January 22nd, 2007 at 2:08 pm
WOW the roads were nasty out that way yesterday! So are you just curious about what is going on out this way or do you have an interest in it, book,etc? Just curious! The cops in New London at the time are all long gone, not sure if any one person would be willing the woman in Fitchville has said she KNOWS who did it but she is a busy body type, so not she that she actually KNOWS anything or just is gossiping! The first name of the man who “stayed” out there, and went to prison? Is that the name you are refering to? He is out of prison but not in this area anymore, from what I understand he got back into drugs after his son died and moved south! Mississippi area I believe. I will ask around to see if anyone actually remembers any of the rumors, all that I remember is that they said a man out there in the cabin looked alot like the drawing, and was capable of doing it! Like I said I was very young when it happened.
January 22nd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
I have an interest in this as I have a relative that lives next door to the guy that fits the FBI profile and they have two beautiful small girls, I’d just like to know if it is him or not. I’d rest better at night. My girlfriend use to talk about the house at the end of the road where the road ends, I think 16, anyways she use to tell me that the people in that house did it, cause they had all this weird stuff painted on there walls and that they burned the room off the house after they killed Amy. Have you heard anything on this?
January 22nd, 2007 at 4:54 pm
I know the house is there and did always think it was strange that they didn’t “notice” anything out there they seem to have a clear view of the area where she was left. I personally have not heard of that but would think it would be very easy to find out about a fire. That is Huron County, one side of CR 16 is Huron the south side is Ashland.
January 22nd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
I kinda wonder if there wasn’t an arsenest around that area back then, I’ve heard about a few other houses that burned too. Over on the corner of 126@ 1281 the old Hamilton farm I believe it is called, and one over on 388, I don’t know about it. Then of course there’s the cabin, but I believe someone said it was because of a divorce.If that’s the case then that family would have a few strange problems.I got to reading the other sites here on the net about Amy and on one of them it talked about the Ashland coroner not wanting the autopsy report open. I figure there’s something in it that tells what they done to her. What do you think?I also think Amy did not live long after she got to that area and she wasn’t in that field very long either.I do know this that a man redressed her, because he put her panties on wrong, a woman wouldn’t.
January 22nd, 2007 at 8:24 pm
I would have to drive out that way to know where this Hamilton farm is, I know there are some Hamiltons in the area. But I can never remember which road is which. I know there was a house that was once owned by a Hamilton family on New London Eastern and Quary road that did burn, but it is rumored that was a “hot” insurance claim! Now I have heard Ashland county is “old school” even with simple trafic violations they get a little nuts, not sure what is with the coroner, I thought possible there is more to what is there and they don’t want the public to know, maybe they know more than they are saying! Now her body in that field, no I don’t see how it could have been there for too long of a period of time, the lady that found her ran by there alot, from what I understand. I would venture to ‘guess’ it was man, maybe I am just sexist but it just seems it would have been harder for a woman to have pulled that off. You figure at 10 almost 11 years old she would have weighed a little more than most women could comfortable handle. Just my thought! I always thought it was strange that the missing posters were put ALL over this area, not just the normal places, maybe that’s why it affected me so much as a child, her picture was everywhere, my father always thought it was strange that in one of the TV pleas, her mother said “please return her we love her more than you do” Sounds as if maybe she had an idea of who it might have been, maybe there is more to her visit out here before!
January 23rd, 2007 at 12:10 pm
The Hamilton place I’m talking about would be the one where the wife finaly died and had tons of money that she left to the Ashland college.I was told she would go to the cemetary every day to talk about business with her dead husband.I don’t know about Amy’s mom,Margaret being out in that area for sure, she may have been just doing her job. I know that she sold spaces for ads in some paper or something like that which caused her to travel around small towns.That might be all there is to that.I agree with you on the part that the coroner probably knows more than he is willing to tell because there must be something in the paperwork that only the killer(s) would know.They have to hold something back.
About the composites being everywhere in the area, I remember back in one of the newspaper articles I think it was Deputy Goon, I’m not sure on this, said that they were told to keep a watch out for her body in that area, now why would they know that Amy’s body was in that area before hand, unless somebody told them. Now I don’t know if that had anything to do with the phone call that said Amy’s body would be found in the tri county area or not. Do you remember any of that?
January 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I don’t remember, I was young. It doesn’t get much more tri county than that area! If Margeret was out here it definately is strange but could have just been her job. What is in the FBI profile? Do you know? The Hamilton place I am not sure I will have to drive out there and see where it was, ask some of my older realatives if they remember any of this stuff, sounds like she was “different” I might visit my dead husband’s grave but never have discussed business with him!! Wonder if he helped her any!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:10 pm
I have a copy of it someplace, I’ll look it up and try to put it on here. It was on the net till Renner did that book ,they were pushing the sale of it.The only thing you could find was it. Wouldn’t mind if it was all correct, but it’s not.Be back in a short while.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Mary, does he have a tie to the Ashland county location where she was found? So what was the name can you say? Did the police investigate what was said to them? Just wondering!
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 pm
it says,the man does not look like the composite-
the offender is a white male-
at the time of the crime the offender was in his mid-to late 30’s–
he is not remarkable in appearance-
within average height, weight, and build-
he may look presentable,but not accomplished or professional—
he is socially marginalized,not in the main stream, not a run of the mill citizen—
He won’t fit in with his peers very well, especially women–
and the people that know him will describe him as ood or difficult–
it is likley that he was living alone, with a single roommate, or maybe still at his parents house—
it is most unlikley he was in a successful marriage, with a normal home and family life–
he was most likley to have undergone some sort of dramatic change in his behavior, personality or appearance in the weeks preceding the crime—
he developed a sudden compulsive or obesessive disorder, experienced a personal catastrophe, or an emotional setback—
he may have started drinking heavily, or stopped drinking suddenly—
he could have started into hard drugs or quit a drug habit—
there was a drastic change in his life, maybe a sudden fascination with a cult or radical religious group—
something happened to this man in the fall of 1989, something that would be noticale to friends and relatives—
there was a pre-event stressor, something that took him from fantasy to action–
the stress in his life may have been reflected in a dramatic change in his physical appearance–he let his hair grow long or cut it very short–
his health suffered–
his weight fluctuated—
there were changes in his appearance or lifestyle–
they go to explain that the person did have knowledge of both areas.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Mary, completely understandable, I would do the same. Is the mane you are refering to still in the area where she was found?
Blanch, thank you very much, very interesting. Now the person you had in mind that fit this are they still in this area?
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:00 pm
I am sorry man not “mane”!
January 24th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
The guy I,m talking about has also moved out of town, not far from where he was.He is still working in plain sight. No one thinks it could be him.He fits all the things in the profile.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
interesting, and very scarey that a killer is walk among us!
January 24th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Paula says
My name is Paula Varney. I own Crescent Moon Boutique on 224 and 60 in Ruggles. I would like to clear something up. I talked to James Renner about some things he has in his book. First of all he called me the first time. He got my phone number from a man I know Bill Hayes. Bill called my house and asked me if I would speak to James Renner, that he had just talked to about the Amy case. I said yes give him my phone number. So he called me. I told him about Pat Stokes a woman I know. Pat said she was at Joanns house a couple roads over and saw Margaret Mihaljevic there. Pat later saw her on TV when Amy went missing. Pat said she knew Margaret but could not place where. Pat told me before Joann died she told her when they find out who killed Amy, it will be the mans son that owned the cabin near where Amy was found. Joann told this to Pat because she knew the people in the cabin and Margaret. James called Pat. She did say that she saw Margaret at Joanns house. I also later on called James and told him about a man that came into the store and said he knew where they held Amy in Bay Village before they brought her out here and a cop was involved. He drew a map to show me. I asked James did he want me to send it to him. He said yes, so i faxed it to him. Later on James came out here to the store to talk to me about the map. While he was here I told him some things Bill Hayes had told me about a man he knew All Matlock. I do not know this man or any of the people that live in the cabin. Regarding the conversation with Liz Russ, I gave him her phone number. So James called her. She said he was not at liberty to use her information in his book. It is already in print, and he did not verify statements made by Mary Johnson. He may have also put certain people in danger by using there names, as there is still a very real killer some place. I think James Renners book will bring the conversation to the table. The reason for my interest in this case is, I’m from the Cleveland area and so was Amy. I now live in the same area where Amy was found.
Paula
January 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Paula, have you read the book? and if you have: do agree with what was said about the people in the New London/Ruggles/Nova area? Did you give him permission to use your name in the book? Do you think the person that killed Amy is still in this area (New London/Ruggles/Nova)?
January 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Thank you Paula for letting everyone know what’s ,what in the book, it does make a difference. I have read an article that use to be in the library in New London that was written by Liz, she does say a few of the same things you just posted. Interesting story, Liz claims it to be all true. Ann have you read that? I wonder why Mr.Renner didn’t see it? Well maybe he did and didn’t believe it either.Mary can you think of any reason that they didn’t arrest that person you turned in? Just wondering.
January 24th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Haven’t read the article, you say it can be found at our libraury here.
January 24th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
it was yrs. ago, however there were a lot of articles stolen from there on Amy’s case, I imagine it was with them.
January 24th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
There were actually articles stolen from the library on her case? That is scarey, must have been someone with something to hide!!
January 24th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
yes, someone from that area!!
January 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Why isn’t Renner answering any questions on this site? Seems to me that if he was as interested in Amy as he claims , he would be here.That’s only my opinion after all this is one of his sites.
January 25th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
I think Mr. Renner knows that some info in his book is not accurate. I also feel he is avoiding answering any questions so he can see how far this goes. He is hoping I believe to gain more answers to his questions.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
I agree with you 100%
January 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
ontour do you know of any other sites that Mr. Renner is on? I would be interested in knowing more about him.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
He has a sight about the book and case at: amymihaljevic.blogspot.com It has some more information about the findings in the book. It also has a profile of him.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
he just posted a new person of intrest on his blog. Type her name in yahoo engine a lot of pgs. come up.
January 25th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Yes I read the new person of interest in the blog. It is located in the sight I gave previously!
January 25th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Hiya! Sorry for the lack of responses lately. I was working on an article for the Free Times about the murder of Joseph Kupchik–another unsolved case in the Cleveland area. I have been updating my blog http://www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com, though, so you may find some info there.
The biggest news lately is that Bay Village police are collecting DNA samples from a number of suspects in the case. And one of the suspects has hired an attorney. A well-known attorney who has defended high-profile murder cases in the past.
As far as the new info posted here, I do find it very interesting. There are a lot of rumors surrounding Amy’s case. Yes, I have heard rumblings about satanic cults and wild “van” parties held in fields and porn tapes circulating around town. To date, I have seen no difinitive proof that these stories are anything more than urban legends that tend to sprout out of unsolved cases. I’m sorry, I just don’t believe them.
Other than a couple frustrating typos, I am unaware of any inaccuracies in my book. But you are certainly free to disagree with me. I know I am not the only person out there who is passionate about solving this case.
Finally, I think it’s a little weird that people are saying I don’t like the Ashland community. I’ve spent a lot of time out there over the years. My wife went to college there so I was in Ashland (and Nova, and Ruggles) practically every week during my early 20’s. C’mon. I loves me some Archway cookies. And the town I grew up in had LESS traffic lights than you folks enjoy. So chill out a little, huh?
Let’s continue the conversation about the case. I welcome any new info. And if you have something particularly interesting, please people, pass it along to the Bay Village police or the Cleveland branch of the FBI. They’re doing a great job re-investigating the case at the moment. Any little bit will help.
-James Renner
January 26th, 2007 at 5:46 am
James, I thought your book was wonderful and couldn’t put it down. I borrowed it from my father to read and am still going to buy a copy for myself, I want to reread it! Thank you for all of the wonderful work you have done with finding this monster.
Have you had any luck with the Ashland County coroner releasing any more information?
January 26th, 2007 at 8:49 am
No luck, yet. But now that we have a motivated Democrat in the AG’s office, there is hope.
-James
January 26th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
One more thing: There are a number of vidoes about Amy’s case on YouTube now. Just enter her name in the search at http://www.youtube.com
January 26th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Dale Griffis is the leading authority on the cult activity all over the world and does have info. about it in this region, so I’ve been told.
Dale is a retired Sheriff of Tiffin, Ohio. Might I make a suggestion at this point to contact him about Amy’s case to see what he has to say?
January 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Let me just add that if you pick up a copy of his book Cults that Kill you just may see this case differently,I believe that this book was written in the late 1980’s early 90’s. If I recall right it does talk about the Norwalk area.
January 27th, 2007 at 8:16 am
what happened to that Matlock person Renner says was found, he’s not on his other site anymore.
I thought he’s middle name was Dwayne,not Dale.
Dale is the only one I saw in arizona, Renner probably had the wrong guy! That’s just sloppy investigating.
January 27th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The details of Alvin Doyle Matlock are still on my blog, if you look back in the archive. He is living in Arizona, but does not have a listed phone number.
I have been able to confirm that he is the man from Ashland. But authorities are not interested in extraditing him on a 16 year old warrant. If he comes back to Ohio at some point, that may change, though.
And seriously, cool down on the ‘tude as my sister would say.
-James Renner
January 27th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
I would have to agree with James on this you guys really need to just relax a little. James has brought this back into the public view again and hopefully because of that something more will come out of this.
January 27th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Did you also confirm that it is his father?And that Alvin D. Matlock Jr. is living in Louisville,Kentucky with a female?
January 27th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
I personaly checked with the Ashland Sheriffs Dept. and was told the name is ALVIN DWAYNE MATLOCK. I’t goes lkie this –
Grandfather– grandmother–Foyster & Dona
they had two boys,
the named them Doyle and Alvin–
they had one boy each,
they named them Doyle Wayne and Alvin Dwayne–
this can be found by checking death records and such.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:40 am
There seems to be several different names within the area that are very similar. Do you think it is possible that the family just named several of their children very similar names. This is a very common situation in the south.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
I would assume so, yes, I was told that they would even use each others names depending on what kind of things they were into at the time, like twins would do in high school to fake out the teachers so no one would know who it really was for sure. This is kinda what it looks like in Amy’s case. It might have been Alvins father that was the culpert and not Alvin Jr.What’s your thoughts on this senerio?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Again, where did everybody go?
January 30th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Didn’t go anywhere, I actually check it often. Just not much to add at this point!!
January 30th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
does Renner check this site once a week or once a month or has he forgotten it altogether?
January 30th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
ontour
do you think that cult is part of this case?
January 30th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
no, I think that because of the way the body was found made it look like cult, as cult is a known fact to have been in that area back then and it would throw off the investigation.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Ann did you see someplace here on the net where there was a party just down the street from Amy’s house and she was there with her mom and some other people, did you see it? can you comment on it?
February 4th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Down the street from Amy’s house in Bay Village? I hadn’t really heard anything on that.
February 4th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
I found it in The archives on Renners blog,amy was with her friend not her mother. the person thought that another person that was there was gay as he acted funny around the children, it was in bay.
February 5th, 2007 at 6:18 am
I will have to see if I can find it and read it.
February 8th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Checkout http://www.times-gazette.com. todays Ashland newspaper. Renner strikes again, odd isn’t it how he waites till the anniversary of Amy being discovered before he lets anyone know anything, he is going to be at the library in Ashland also, some time in March.I think he’s running down the wrong road again.
February 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Did I understand the article right, that he was down here talking to one of the girls that also received phone calls at the same time that Amy was taken? That sure is strange!
February 8th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
I don’t know if it is the same time she was taken or not, I do know that this is old news.There were reports of this after Amy went missing.Back then there was a report that some guy was calling a few young girls in the same family wanting to take them horseback riding. They had there phones taken out! The mother of those girls told me.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:08 am
I think that more attention should be taken in the ashland area where Amy’s body was found. There are significant roads and highways through this area that give access to areas in Bay Village and Southward. I am sure that maps have been looked at but have they connected the maps with any of the people that have been listed as suspects?
February 9th, 2007 at 10:43 am
Mary I agree, they didn’t find CR1181 by accident. And they always refer to taking RT71. I wouldn’t take 71 to get to Bay Village from this area at all. I live only about 2 miles from where she was found, going down and getting on 71 in Ashland is way out of the way.
February 9th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Ann I agree. Now someone who lives off of 71 and goes this direction every week, might consider this to be the best route? I think the map is a key issue in this crime
February 9th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Rt. 58 takes you streight to the lake and runs into Rt.2, from that area in Ruggles it seems to me that a person would take St. RT. 224 then 58. I don’t know if 511 goes that far off 224.
February 9th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
if you look at a map you can see that a cloverleaf of intersection is just down from where Amy lived. so how would someone drive to Ruggles from Amy’s end?
February 9th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Someone who lives off of 71 going to Cleveland could take a Route that would bring him through the same area where Amys body was found. Through Loudonville/Perrysville area. Check the different routes from 71 at 61 exit. There is a little town off of this road. Check the suspects, one lived right off of this exit and went to Cleveland frequently for business. He took the route not far from where Amy was found.
February 9th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Amy was found in the middle of NO WHERE. The only actual main roads near there are: StRt 60 and StRt 162. 511 is sorta near there. She wasn’t found too far from StRt 60, I guess but still people that do live in this area would have trouble finding the location! As I have said, I only live about 2 miles from where she was found and really had never been out that way too much, other than to camp at Country Stage Campground. I will have to get a map out and see what I can find. Perhaps Gore Orphanage road goes up that far not sure, would have to take a look at it. But even if it does go up that far, they would still have to have known the area!!
February 9th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Loudonville, Perrysville isn’t close to where she was found! I know there has been talk of Mohican too but here again not near where she was found.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
does anybody know how many suspects there are now?
February 9th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Not sure, Renner speaks of several in the book, but I figure there are probable some not mentioned also.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Why does it have to be a fishing or hunting cabin,for the area Amy was found in , could she have been kept in a root cellar on some farm or a bank barn?
February 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
I have thought about that too. It really makes you question whether there is more to the ‘cabin story’ than we are being told. A barn or root cellar make alot of sense. Or perhaps even a camper. There are alot of campgrounds in the area. There are a couple very near where she was found. Really the body could have been kept most anywhere out of the eliments and cool, even an abandoned house! It is very strange that they think it was hunting or fishing cabin. I have read somewhere that perhaps it needed to be moved because of a hunting season starting, deer season would be ending then, not sure of some of the other seasons.
February 9th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Actually, someone sick enough to have done this might have had the body in the fridge or freezer the whole time who knows!
February 10th, 2007 at 9:57 am
they never have said they found any frostbite on her so I’m thinging it was just some kinda building that kept her from the eliments and rats, mice that type of thing.there must have been something on the body for them to ask about a cabin.What could you get on yourself from the inside of a cabin, or camper? Freezer burn from a freezer was not mentioned.what about something she inhailed? mice will get into a camper.Campgrounds and the like don’t open till May 1st. they start getting ready about April 15th.Ceder point I think in Feb.what else could it be? I have an idea — I’ll think on it awhile .
February 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Country Stage Campground opens in April and closes the last weekend in October. But if you leave your camper out there for the winter you are aloud to go out when ever to check on things. Perhaps they found things that may have been in wood cabin. But you would think mice and rats would get into a cabin also. Definatly an interesting thought. Maybe it was just as simple as “he” thought they were “on to him” and dumped it, got scared. Maybe someone did start asking too many questions and such and they got scared.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:45 am
Being it was winter couldn’t her body have been kept in the trunk of a car?
February 12th, 2007 at 10:39 am
I had heard rumor at one time that Amy’s body was in the back of a car, the weather had gotten a little warmer and it started to smell so the guy dumped it.
February 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
That would make sense! With it being cold weather it could have been kept just about anywhere. You have to wonder if we will ever know what actually happened to her, even if they do find who did it, will they give the details.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Did any of you read on James Renner’s blog about the girl who’s family heard a girl screaming for someone to stop it? It sounds as if it were blown off as just a hayride, but they only heard the one voice!
February 13th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
That sounded to me as if someone was being raped. If some one was killing some body they would probably make sure that the person being killed wouldn’t be heard.
February 13th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
unless the person screeming was watching somebody being killed, not wanting that to happen I could see them screem.
February 15th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Check out channel 8 at 6 and 10 tonight for more information on Amy’s case,
February 15th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
I will definatly have to watch that tonight! Thank you!
February 15th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Well they sure didn’t give very much information on the news report! What do you guys think, do you think that it is the same person that called Julia that called and possibly killed Amy? I wonder who the one suspect is that won’t cooperate with the DNA samples! Hopefully this will be solved very soon!
February 16th, 2007 at 10:58 am
No they didn’t say much,even Det. Spaetzel said that he didn’t believe that there is a connection in the two callers. I didn’t think so when I had first listened to it.I’m assuming the person that he was saying wouldn’t take the DNA test is mentioned in the book as Brad Harvey.Detect. Spaetzel did come back and say that the man didn’t refuse the DNA test, he was just avoiding him.Are any of you going to see Renner when he comes to the Ashland library? I know he doesn’t have a clue as to whom it might be, as he keeps going in different directions.
February 16th, 2007 at 11:25 am
I would like to get down to see him when he does come to Ashland, Do you have any idea what time he will be there?
February 16th, 2007 at 11:28 am
You really have to wonder if the caller is ACTUALLY the same person that did take Amy. It has crossed my mind that perhaps the two weren’t connected. I had read somewhere that perhaps the man that did take her might have just been there and she went up to him and ask if he was the man she was suppose to meet. A sick person would have jumped on the opportunity to grab her at that point. There just seems to be so many possibilities with this case, no one seems to have any clue!
February 16th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Do you guys look at the blog on Renners site? There are some new interesting comments posted on there. You might take a look at it!
February 17th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
I just read it, the person that hasn’t yet taken the DNA test is not Brad Harvy!!! This could only mean to me that I may be right in thinking the person that I have in mind is the Killer!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
if the person that won’t take the DNA test was calling from the house in westlake it wouldn’t have appeared to have been long distance, they took her from that house and transported her to the Rugggles area where she was then found later.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:09 am
Ontour- Did you read the part about the Mapleton School district? Would the person you are thinking about be that same person too? It is scarey to think about that, perhaps they are getting worried and figure if they are going down they might as well do it again!! I have younger girls and it scares me to death to even let them play in the yard without other children out there, you just never know what might happen. My younger daughter isn’t aloud out with out her brother or the neighborhood children, unless she is in the back yard inside the locked gate! She is 11.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
No it’s not the same person. Did you see that the TV airing repeated again last night? What do you think the reason for that is? Trying to flush someone out maybe?Did you see that Big Chuck and Little Jon show last night gave away the Book that Renner wrote?
February 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
No I didn’t watch either one. That is very strange, to repeat the airing. You have to wonder if they are getting closer to figuring it out.
February 19th, 2007 at 8:30 am
they already know , they need just one little thing that ties it altogether. Do you know Dave and Sandy? He use to drive a truck?
February 19th, 2007 at 11:33 pm
just an after thought — these people don’t have anything to do with Amy’s case. I am just trying to locate them and I know they had friends in the New London, Nova area.
February 20th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
What is the last name can you say?
February 20th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Or do you know the friends names? I have lived in New London my entire life!! Know alot of folks around town!
February 20th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
I don’t remember their last name, I met them one time while I was in the News Center down town talking to Jerri.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:59 pm
Wow the News Centre has been gone for a long time now!!
February 22nd, 2007 at 5:22 pm
I know, I haven’t been able to find these people for a long time.I use to go in there with my friend that lived around there. That’s where I met Jerri, a woman, she just knew eveybody.
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:22 am
what age range was Jerri in?
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pm
she was much older than me, I’d say somewhere around 56 at the time.maybe not that old,in the area.
February 24th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Ann –
is there a reason you don’t reply?
February 25th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
This time I just actually hadn’t been on here. I only reply if I have something to say!
February 25th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
does that mean you don’t know Dave and Sandy?
February 25th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Not sure if I do that is why I ask if you knew what their last name was. I knew some folks that worked at the News Centre, Diane was a lady that worked there many many years until it closed.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
ok, I guess I’ll give up on finding them. I didn’t get their last name.That’s why I could only ask for Dave and Sandy.The only other thing that I knew about them was that he drove a semi.Have you been keeping up with the other site? There is alot of talk about some man in your area that is following buses, and I guess people. In the area of 1181 and 126 and 16 I think.They said just around the corner from where they found Amy’s body. I didn’t see that at first when you asked me about it. I thought you were talking about when it happened years ago, sorry.They did say that the person in question was a suspect in the begining, however everyone in that area was a suspect.
Have you been watching the “Anna” case unfold?
February 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
I have heard alot about the person following the church bus out here. I actually know one kid that was on the bus his mom was telling me about it. One of the bus drivers lives right down the street from me and the other is a Doctor in the area. The bus goes right by our house several times a week and it is really scarey, I have preteen/teen children and we have ALOT of children in the neighborhood!
The Anna Nicole case? I have watched it some, not alot.
My Aunt use to “hang” around the News Centre alot when she was a teen, she is a few years older than me, I will ask her if she knows who Dave and Sandy might be. She is a little bit more open than I am, I try to stay right here in my house and not have to much to do with the people in town!! It just works for me.
February 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
thanks, I do know what you mean by stayings home, it seems to be the only thing I want to do anymore, must be old age or cold weather or both!
February 27th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
check out renner’s site, now he’s going to a psychic! can’t say to much, I done that long ago.The trick to that is knowing how to put what they say altogether.do ya know who the psychic is in Medina?
February 28th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
I did see that he was going to a pychic, I do believe in some of them, no don’t know that one, I use on in Sandusky and then another one in Norwalk they are both “scarey” good, it will give you definate chills. I would love to find a medium in the area! It will be interesting to see what he says about it all and what he will actually post on the site.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
I read “the reading” and ran off a copy to compare to some of the things in the book. It sure didn’t give any specific clues!
March 1st, 2007 at 3:23 pm
check out the new post, that article that is being talked about is downstairs in the library in new london, you have to ask to see it. There is a good reader in Mansfield,I know she has had input in Amy’s case.If you think about all the stuff that the psychic said to him, you should already know that almost all of it was said before on TV or in some newspaper.Did he say at any time she was a valaid practicing police psychic? If not then she could have been just trying to get her thoughts across as to whom she thought it might be, but you still can’t explain away all she said.
March 1st, 2007 at 8:22 pm
I will have to run up to the library and see about the article. I know somewhere I read that some of the articles at NL library were stolen. I will have to check and see if it is still there when I get a chance to get up there. I know they are open late on some nights. The reading definatly sparked alot of comments on Renners sight. I have been so busy that I have not gotten to reread it closely. I will hopefully get to it over the weekend. I was wondering how much of the stuff was already said or written at some point and if the lady just remembered it or is just hoping to gain some business from all of this. It is hard to say!!
March 1st, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I had some one check late this afternoon and that article is still there, you just have to ask for it and it’s downstairs. The reason that article was left there was because the rest were stolen and there wasn’t much to look at dealing with that case.
March 6th, 2007 at 10:10 am
it’s getting heated up over at the other site
March 6th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
It definatly is, very good reading!!!!
March 6th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
I think so,
March 7th, 2007 at 8:55 am
did you get a chance to go to the library and read that article yet?
March 7th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
No I haven’t been up there yet! Just so busy with the kids and family stuff!! I want to get up there!
March 8th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Renner will be at the Ashland library at 7:00 tonight.
March 9th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Did you get to the Ashland Library to listen to him last night? I wanted to go but didn’t want to go alone so decided to just miss it, I am hoping to get up to New London when he comes there! If you did go what did he have to share?
March 10th, 2007 at 8:59 am
he really didn’t say to much more than what he said in the book. The people didn’t have many questions, at least none they wanted to tell out loud to everybody there. There were two undercover cops,the old sheriff at the time and the cornor were also there. The guy from the news paper was there but he never took any pictures.It was kinda so, so. I’m thinking it might be better at new london library.
March 12th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Have you checked his blog?????
the coroner’s investigative sec./wife Karen Emery had Renner’s book taken off the shelves at the Ashland universary book store. The absolute nerve!!!!What’s going on in that town that makes that book so damaging to be on the shelves for sale?Who is covering up for what? What does the coroner know about Amy’s case that the rest of us don’t and why would he cover it up? Is he part of what happened to her? I demand answers!!! I’m going to contact every TV talk show that I can think of and tell them about this situation in this dink of a town and let some big wig step in and make sence of the whole thing!!!I hope your reading this Emery’s,I also hope they make you put that book back out and tell just what it is that is causing you to be like you are with that autopsy report on that kid!!!!!I hope they go into your records and check every single person that died from the time you took that job till the day your setting on your ass thinking about whether or not you done something wrong in prison!!!Right now you look just guilty as hell!!! Free speech my ASS!!!!!
March 13th, 2007 at 11:46 am
I’d like to say that today after making a complaint to the book store by e-mail this is the answer that they sent me back.
You cannot believe everything you read or hear. We do indeed have the book in our bookstore, will continue to do so, and have sold several copies of it.
Kind regards,
Terri Hudson
I’m still going to be checking just to make sure that it is there, I see no reason to insult any writer in this fashion.
March 13th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Now according to Renner he was on the phone with the book store manager and it was not on the shelf, he even posted a phone number and name to contact the manager. Doesn’t seem that Renner would “make” something like that up, perhaps the manager has received several complaints and decided to put it back out on the shelf!!! I agree with ONEpistAmerican, we need someone to step in and see what the hell is going on over there. It does seem strange, hopefully they have a good reason for behaving the way they have.
March 13th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Rumor has it that there are people in place in Ashland that are checking things out as we type!!
I hope the rumor is true. The book is back on the shelves now.
March 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I hope so too!!
March 15th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
wow, did you look at those pictures? Ann, do you remember that house? seems like everyone I talk to remembers it, but they don’t remember where it was.
March 16th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
I do seem to remember seeing it “somewhere” but can’t for the life of me remember where I have seen it. Very strange that it is located on 1181.
March 16th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
I just blew up the pictures and looked at them again, the blood seems to have been “placed” in spots on the wall. Seems very strange to me that someone who was just a hunter would have placed that blood in a manner like this on the walls.
Does anyone know if the house is still out there? I haven’t been out there in a long time.
March 17th, 2007 at 10:15 am
The house is gone, I just figured out where it was. your right , it does look like the blood was just placed there.something happened there that didn’t have anything to do with hunters, not animal hunters at least!
March 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am
I know around that time there was alot of satin worshiping stuff going on in the area.
March 18th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
I was out in that area the other day and went down 126, when I got to the bridge there was a pentagram and 666 and satin written on the bridge in paint. Have you seen this? I hadn’t seen it a month before that when I was driving around out there, Do you think it was kids doing that or adults? Have you heard where that house is? Does your Dad know where it might have been? I thought I knew at one point but not to sure anymore.
March 18th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I will have to have him look at the pics and see, I will have to drive out that way and take a look around.
March 22nd, 2007 at 6:36 am
Did you get the chance to look around yet? The place I’m thinking of has a concrete block garage.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Ann,
Have you been looking at the other site? Seems the location was on co.rd. 500, very interesting stuff being said there.Have you ever heard about anything from over there? Who lived there in 1989?I was told that people bought the place from another part of ohio to use when they retired,They were going to build on the land, they never lived in the house it just sat there supposedly empty. Then it was burned down.I’m thinking that it is the place I was thinking about, so I drove out that way and looked the other day and you can still see the the block garage from 60.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:51 pm
hey Ann where did ya go?
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:51 pm
OMG! I have been under the weather!!! Just starting to feel better the last couple of days!! I have been watching the other site and it is getting very interesting!!
April 4th, 2007 at 9:04 am
Got some new stuff on the other site today. I don’t think Lam. guy had anything to do with this case.
April 5th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
I just read the other postings. Now I am so curious as to what was in that report! I can’t wait until it is released to the public. I wonder if Renner is right and they are close to figuring this out after all these years, also wonder who exactly lied to him about certain things. Hopefully he will post some more information soon.
April 5th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
The best thing to do is to go over the book again and see who he is talking about that was telling him about the crime scene!!!!!
April 6th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Well now,,, it’s just a matter of time till we all know who all was involved in the abduction and MURDER of Amy. I’m pretty sure I know already, I hope these people are reading this as I have already turned your names…….. over to the FBI. It’s funny isn’t it how everything has it’s day. Just when you thought you still weren’t known to anyone you find out right here that you’ve been watched and people have been going over every little thing in your life since before Oct.14th 1988 are you rattled? Well you should be, because shortly the FBI will be knocking at your door and the tv cameras will be staring you right in the face and people all over the world are going to wonder just what could make full grown people do what YOU done to that poor little girl.Then and only then there will be peace in the valley.Was she crying and begging , please I just want to go home? I’ll say yes, that’s probably her last words before she ran from you and you struck her in the head.You remember just before you carried her up those musty smelling stairs. Yes someone knows other than your little group what you were up to and why!!!!!!!!!
April 6th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
OMG!!!!!!
April 6th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
ontour: by saying oh my God, Do you know what they are talking about? I was told by someone today that they heard a news report that they truely think this case will be solve within the week. I didn’t see it someone ask me about it because they know of my interest in the case. Have you seen the report? It is getting pretty heated~!! Please share your thoughts on it!! God Bless!
April 6th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
ONEpistAmerican~can you share more information?
April 7th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Where was that report at? was it in the paper or someplace else? do ya think that when Renner saw that report it showed she was molested when he was told she wasn’t?
April 7th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
My husband said he seen it 2 nights ago on Fox 8.
April 7th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
It would have to be so if they said it. They must really have the goods on the person that is invoved.I’ve had people instant message me to tell me that something is happening already today. I don’t know what it is though.The other post kinda shook me up when they talked about her last words!!! It must have been awful for a child or for that matter anyone to go through.I just can’t get the picture out of my mind of what they said.How could anyone do such a thing?????
April 7th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
I went back to Renner’s site and played the fox 8 report again and it only talks about Lamboregine, he isn’t the one as he was a child preditor. They’re looking for a killer.Did he see another report that was is different?
April 8th, 2007 at 4:31 am
I guess it was on the radio, Lanagan in the morning show.That other post is really something, sounds like they know who it is.What do you think?
April 9th, 2007 at 8:46 am
Where did ya go ?
April 11th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Are you checking the other site?
I’t’s really getting interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOT HOT HOT!!!!!!!!!!!
We’ll know something before to long!!!!!!!!!
April 11th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
I am a newby here,I hope Im not upsetting anyone for “butting in” I just got news of this page, and WOW, you guys are great!!!! I cant belive the other site doesnt have people conversing like you people do.
I feel that the meeting Sunday in new London will be a lot more interesting than the one in Ashland. Those people ( in Ashland) are just plain SCARED to ask or say anything. I understand they think they will forever be watched, or harrassed by officials if they speak up. But if we dont speak up, what will there be? We need to be at the meeting Sunday, I feel this is going to be REAL GOOD! and James is going to crap when some juciy questions and comments come out. LOOK at everyone, memorize faces he might be sitting mext to you.
April 11th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Wow!!!!!!!!! then it’s true that Amy was killed in Ashland after all? I always did wonder where all the blood was at if it did in fact take place in Bay Village.I had heard that there was a lot of blood more than what would have been in that house in Bay. I do have one question which is why would the FBI or police be interested in deer blood? Why then did they cut out places in the walls and floors of that house,If it didn’t have anything to do with Amy’s case? What was on those cut out pieces anyways?
April 12th, 2007 at 7:32 am
It looks too as if the officals think that everyone except them are stupid!!!!Imagine that, there really are people that can think and have a brain, that can figure all this out and are not afraid, after all, we’re grown-ups too!!!!!!!!!!!Don’t that beat all!!!!!!!!!
April 12th, 2007 at 7:35 am
HUM………………
April 12th, 2007 at 11:31 am
it’s getting hotter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!on the other site !!
April 12th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
I JUST SEE THIS ON THE OTHER SITE…. O M G
THIS WAS WRITTEN FROM JAMES RENNER TO AN ANONYMOUS POSTER
Anonymous Poster with Info
Someone just sent a post that I cannot publish–yet–because it concerns an uncharged suspect. I’m really interested in this individual you spoke of and your friend in law enforcement who has info. I’ve been trying to find this person you mentioned for a long time. Please contact me directly through the email address at the top of the main page.
Thank you.
-James Renner
April 12th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Ya know that’s the second time he has asked for that person to contact him, I don’t think they did the first time.There’s been an awful lot of things being said over there!!!!
What do you think about all the different things?
Why, I wonder doesn’t he just ask for info. on a certain thing and have people answer him back that way, he would probably get futher that way than to just say , the one that just posted contact me @ my e-mail address on the main page. How many people did he not let post for one reason or another?
April 12th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
I’ve got the name of one officer that was around and at the time of the discovery. They are no longer there.They can verify a lot of what was said on that other site. I even know where they are right now!!!!!!
April 12th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Why don’t you just give Renner that info.?
April 13th, 2007 at 5:47 am
I was checking the other site and seen where one poster said that they might already know who the killer is, they just might need the proper evidence to convict the person. My question to that is, what exactly do they need if that is the case? They have already said they collected a ton of evidence,are they looking for an eye witness? If they are, why don’t they just call in people or go to people that have been turned in as suspects, ones that are truley suspects.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:22 am
I posted on the other site about the article that was in one of the newspapers when Amy’s body was found that said ” her stepfather was on his way” from Michigan I think it said and it gave his name. It was on page 3 at the top. My mother had brought it to my attention so I wouldn’t miss it. Does anyone here remember seeing it? I haven’t been able to find the paper it was in. I’ve talked to other people that said they also read it.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:28 am
I saw it too.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Amy did not have a stepfather. Her parents were not divorced at the time of her abduction and had been married years before Amy came along. If you saw it in a paper, it was a mistake. Most likely, the person they were talking about was a relative. Both the Mihaljevics and the McNulty’s were from West Allis, Wisconsin. Grandparents and uncles and aunts came down to visit after Amy disappeared to support the family. This is a rumor than doesn’t need to be taken seriously. It takes the focus away from more likely suspects.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
I was just thinking that maybe they ment to say uncle.
All righty then,
settled.
April 15th, 2007 at 6:53 am
Today’s a big day, so a few of you think you should make an appearence just to hear what’s being said. Let me tell you this, no one is going to say anything that will make you think your known to anyone else.But take my word for it,they know. Think about it, one of you is female.
April 15th, 2007 at 8:19 am
I am ready…. are you? lets go in open minded, and ask our questions. Hop e to see packed house.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
OKAY! So now thats over, I have more questions.
April 15th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Why would an officer lie about the investigation? what officer lied, one from Bay, or Ashland? Who knows what officers were first on the scene? why is there such a cover up on the autopsy report? if they are so sure now who the killer is why couldnt they figure it out before Mr. Renner seen the report how many times did they change the report? anyway Who are they trying to protect, and now NOT trying to protect? Someone please, if you got the answers, someone out there does. TELL ME!!!!!
April 15th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Okay another question… someone said they found type O blood in the house( where Amy was allegly killed) Isnt that a rare blood type? Thats the type that anyone can get for a transfusion right?
April 15th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
I think Goon and Martin were first on the scene.
rumor has it that they have known from the get-go who done it.They didn’t want people to know what it was exactly that killed Amy. Like the lack of blood! Possible body parts missing, even some markings on the body which would indicate what group of people they were, maybe someones name carved in her body.It looked to me like they changed the report one time, as in places where they listed the place of death as unknown they changed it to say Ashland County,things like that.It may have been an officer that gave the person emunity if he gave the names of other people that were involved in other things that were crime related to include the killer and the story of what happened to Amy. It may have been an officer that was involved, or attorney.Which ever way it goes we will soon know, tech. is way better now days and can finger the people involved.Or one of the others will finaly tell. Makes you wonder doesn’t it, why Matlock left 17 yrs. ago, and never came back. The thing I found strange was that Martin said in the book that Matlock had a warrant for his arrest way back when and they still didn’t bother to go and get him. It would be different if he weren’t around in the area when that all happened, but he was so you would think that he would be wanted for questioning in this high profile case.
April 15th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
It’s common, and that is the house , that I’ve already verified with the officer at the scene.
April 15th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
which martin? there are a lot of them?
April 15th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
Okay I read your statement again , and again…..You said Matlock has been gone for 17 years… And its possible they gave someone immunity for spilling the beans, is it possible that matlock is the one they gave immunity to? And now lives in Arizona? (And we cant google him cuz he is under a different name now for protection) If they wanted to question him so bad (for a murder case) they would have called another dept in Arizona, had him picked up for questioning…wouldnt they? I guess that is what you were getting at. (If not correct me)
April 16th, 2007 at 7:36 am
There’s a lot of rumor being brandied about here that just isn’t true. Please be careful. Remember, no public official has gone on record saying the blood in that house was human. I have it on very good authority that it was deer’s blood. Let’s not assume we know where the murder took place. Feel free to conjecture, but please make it apparent that these are your opinions and not fact. Thank you.
-James
April 16th, 2007 at 7:55 am
O.K. it is my opinon after talking with a public offical in law enforcement that it is the crime scene house and that it is Amy’s blood.If you check Matlock’s name out on the net you will find that he didn’t change his name and he lives in Kentucky.His name is Alvin D Wayne Matlock.There is a person by the name of Alvin Matlock that lives in Arizona but he plays in a band, there’s also a picture of him and it doesn’t look the same as the one that was here. Renner’s site has a picture of the one that lived here 17 yrs. ago. And it was Larry Martin.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
James… Hello?????? Now didn’t you say you were lied to… and by who???? um yeah, I rest my case There is a lot of people who have it on good authority that it is , or is not… lets just focus on the main thing here, we are looking for a killer, And yea, along the way, we have our right to free speech, and we express our views on who, when , where , why ( the butler, in the study, with a candle stick ect.) Not stepping on anyone toes , but damn come on now, We all were lied to , about a lot not just the crime area , or the autopsy, but in general the media has also conveyed the wrong info, but by no fault of us, but who??? Duh…. Big Brother If that’s what you call them, any way you look at it , we got lied to, and in my book, I don’t see a pay back, I have a good friend I like to call KARMA, And KARMA Is one bad a** and what come around goes around, who ever lied to James, lied to us as well. Someone will not be there to no longer lie for them, especially when it all comes out who done this and who lied for them. I’m ready for the truth! God I am so ready for the truth, just tell us, we are grown now, we can handle it! Stop the bull crap already, you seen the report, you said it tells who the killer is, can we please?…. I’m done…I’m done, my “RANT” is done. I just want the end, the truth. I will be here… just lookin for some answeres, ANY!! I wanna hear ‘em
April 16th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
1 freakedoutchic~
here’s the thing ~ it looks like what ever was done to the body is the killers M.O.~ now after all this time they probably have a match on that with someone else ~ like maybe it happened to another person but they didn’t die, and got away ~ however they didn’t know who the person was or what they looked like ~ maybe they wore a mask? in any event it is most likely that the M.O. is the only thing other than the DNA that the authorites can use to convict the killer. The only thing that would bother me about waiting the six months or even half the time is that gives the authorites enough time to put a gag order in effect, and God forbid what if something happened to Renner, then where would we be?
April 17th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
o.k. everybody, how about some input here?
April 18th, 2007 at 8:11 am
I got a question~ does anyone out there have any information on a situation that happened with a female back in 1989 that jumped from a van and was left laying in the road on 250 close to the norwalk hospital, she then crawled to the hospital for treatment?
I’ve heard this story, I’d like to check it out to see if it is true or not.It may or may not have something to do with the case.
Just trying to keep Amy’s case alive.
April 18th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Is the the same story of …. there once was a woman who was abducted by a group of men, 3 or 4 , they beat her and cut her up and branded her with “devil marks” and she got away by jumping out of the moving vehicle and crawled to the Fisher Titus Hospital( does that sound familiar?)
But never got to hear the whole story of what happened to her completly, and if she knew the people and could she pick them out of a line up? You are asking… It may or may not have anything to do with Amy, but if more then 1 person was involve with Amy’s abduction, could it be the same people , but we, or at lease I dont know if Amy’s death involved devil worship, or markings on her body! So says me, IN MY OPINION, BUT WHO AM I TO SAY?
April 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Yes that’s the story I was looking for,thank you.Someone had told me bits and pieces of the story but I never knew what happened. Do you know if the woman is still alive in the area? Do you remember Mapleton schools sending flyers home to parents that said watch out for a van that was in the area and said to be trying to pick up children? I guess it was several yrs. back.It was about that time that WNCO told on one of there early morning bradcasts that a boy 10 or 11 yrs. old was running down the road naked, the sheriff picked him up and the boy said a bunch of men were after him trying to kill him, he was running from them.They had also said that it ties in with cult activites being investigated as they spoke in Northern Ashland County.
April 18th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
That was one of the stories that I’d heard about Alvin Matlock, so it’s my opinion that there is a connection, What’s your thoughts? Anybody? Could it be that……..the same “devil markings” that was on the walls that the authorities cut out of that house were on that girl……. AND SHOWN IN THE AUTOPSY OF AMY!!!!!!!!!!? Of course it is just my own opinion.
April 20th, 2007 at 8:15 am
There were no occult markings of any kind on Amy’s body. Please, people, remember that Amy’s family may read these blogs, too.
April 20th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
“In MY Opinion”
After this many yrs. they probably already heard rumors of such things, not only that but did you ever think they were waiting to see what answers other people have? There might be something said that they remember too, with you constantly trying to get everyone not to say what’s on their minds you hamper what could be the ending in this awful ordeal for that family!!!!! Your as bad as the coroner….now there’s a comparison of epic proportion!!!!!!!!!!!!You should have never said a word about reading that autopsy if you weren’t able to carry through with what it said and answered questions for the public.Amy’s family couldn’t possibly be anymore hurt over the things said here than they have of her untimely death. Let me go on record here and now to say to Amy’s family that I in absolutly no way shape or form wish to harm their feelings, if by chance I have already I’m SORRY, but I will not stop trying to find the true killer and the truth to this crime…..
April 21st, 2007 at 6:06 am
Any body out there???????????
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 am
Well if it wasn’t cult markings then it had to be gang markings, and you won’t let anyone say anything about a gang …. drug related….or otherwise, that would be the only thing left that makes any sence. Now let me see if I got this streight…..
Amy was put in that field…why that field?
because it had something to do with the opposite gang…?
Maybe it was a territorial drug gang war,one verses the other,
or them against the cops, something in that line of thinking.
Why Amy?…..
Amy was being watched by a member and they knew she could be taken, thinking that “nobody cared for that little girl anyways”….
A revenge against the other gang? Maybe they stepped on some toes that they shouldn’t have?
From thatI can see that what they done was what you would assume could happen to any young female by a whacked out of your mind group of guys on drugs.
Was any member of Amy’s family involved?….NO…. they couldn’t have possibly known these kinds of people.
Did Amy know who it was?… yes… she had to know who to look for after school…
Did Amy know what was going to happen?…. No… she really did believe she was getting a gift for her mother.
Where did Amy know this person from?……..
They must have been close in the area to where she lived, went to school or the horse stables.My guess would be close to where she lived because there she would have more time to talk to someone without being in a hurry to get to classes, school or stable.
Was she killed in Ashland or Bay Village?…. I would imagine in Ashland, I don’t remember hearing of any drug gangs in the Bay Village. area.
Was Matlock involved?….. Yes to some extent, he had to be to be able to say what he did about Amy.
Why didn’t they arrest him?….might be because he told who all was involved and for that they gave him the option to leave the state and never return again, that does explain some of the rumors going around like…
They always knew who it was….
you could tell by her body who it was…
the missing cut out pieces of wall…..
What those pieces had on them…..
This is just my opinion in therory……Any one care to ask a question now? other than Renner.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:56 pm
WOW!!!! UM… ! Im at a loss of words, (unbeliveable huh?) Give me a while to absorb this, Im sure I will have something to say.
April 23rd, 2007 at 10:38 am
There was no writing or symbols of any kind on her body. Nothing like that. This has nothing to do with satanic cults or drug gangs. This is a child who was abducted and murdered by a pervert. Let’s look in the right direction.
April 23rd, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I for one thought and thought about this and after all this time the thoughts that crossed my mind turned my stomach!
April 23rd, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Renner,
I AGREE with you 100% in waiting to tell what you saw.
April 24th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
If you go back to your reading…. you will find some of the pieces to this puzzle….I did.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:04 am
I decided to put the definition of PERVERT on here in case someone doesn’t know exactly what it is. This is out of the Webster’s New World Dictionary…2003.
Pervert…..
1. to lead astray; corrupt
2. to misuse
3. to distort — one practicing sexual perversion
Perversion…
1. a perverting or being perverted
2. something perverted
3. any sexual act or practice considered abnormal.
With that said…go back to the 10 yr. profile that’s posted here and read it again, someone you might know fits this. At the time Amy went missing this persons age was in the area of about 35 – 40 he would now be almost 18 yrs. older. Think about it, you may have heard stories about this person and the things he done, you may be a person he done this to, if you have any information Please Call Bay Village 440-871-0773 or the FBI at 216-522-1400…. let’s get this guy!!! We can do it!!!!
April 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
I was reading back the posts and came across one that I must have missed… it was Nov. 27th James Renner says…..It talks about a video that was shown in the Eagles club in Asland…..are you sure it wasn’t in the Reed House restarunt in Nova?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
BOLD…. JUST PLAIN BOLD, I Heard it was the Reed House also, just a few weeks after someone said the tape was locked up in the safe at the Reed House, It was broke into and robbed, and the tape came up missing as well, now this allegley, happened after someone reported to the sheriff that there was a tape there in the safe, just before it was investigated, the Reed house was broke into and safe robbed, and tape missing….hum….
and um…ONEpistAmerican, I am sure you heard about that too.
come back … talk to us… we want to hear what ALL of you have to say.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
1freakedoutchic…
did you see what Renner posted to his site?
April 25th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
kinda looks like porn was involved now doesn’t it!!!
We already know that Martin knew about the tape!!!
April 25th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Who reported that a tape was in the safe?
April 25th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Who owned or ran that restarunt at that time?
April 25th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
ONTOUR…. yes I did, it should be soon…
ONEpistAmerican ….It looks that way (about the porn) I am unsure if Martin knew of a tape, but you would think he would have, due to being a deputy at that time, he would have made out a report that day about the break in, unless another shift deputy made the report, ( I think martin was on 3rd shift at the time, so another shift would have had to respond to the call)
Ontour…..I dunno who made the statement about the tape being in there, but I do remember people talking of there being one in the safe the the Reed house…..
Blanch….. At that time Cy and Effie’s Children ran the Reed House, Cy had already passed away I belive, and Effie turned it over to her kids,…. thats when it went to SH** , if you know what I mean.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
I says 4:20 pm but its not them time posted is wrong, it is 7:20
April 25th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Cy and Effie’s children sold it to Rick Goss back in 1986~ they were only open a few yrs. then it was sold again.
April 26th, 2007 at 3:01 am
Thank you, see how close in dates that is as to when it switched, I called a friend, they also said the children sold it in 86 time frame
April 26th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Does anybody know what color the building was in 1989?White front with gray back?
April 27th, 2007 at 11:14 am
It may not have been open for business in 1989 but someone had to own it…….
April 27th, 2007 at 11:16 am
HUMMM….never thought about it that way.
April 27th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Anybody know who it was?
April 27th, 2007 at 11:20 am
It’s going to be auctioned in May.
April 27th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Martin was on nights at that time…..
April 27th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Thats what I thought, was Rus Crossen on there also when the call came in? are we allowed to listen to old tapes or read old transcrips of that day fom the sheriff office?
April 28th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Don’t recall~ only with a court order now. Must have been some mess to clean up from what I gather.
April 28th, 2007 at 7:04 am
where do you think they kept her to make her clothes fade like that?
April 28th, 2007 at 7:20 am
I thought maybe beside a window….but that doesn’t fit what is being said about the body being well preserved…. away from the elements so it must be something else.
April 28th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Is there anyone out there that knows who owned or ran that Reed House in Nova in 1989?
Surely someone out there knows, it can’t be that hard to find out.Does anyone have pictures of it or anything????????
April 28th, 2007 at 8:50 am
My question is for James~
Just how much is the FBI and others allowing you to say?
Are you being restricted in any way of what you can talk about?
Have you been told to keep your mouth shut on certain things and not so much on others?
Somebody is making you their pupet~
I watched you jump up when a question was asked at the Ashland Library.
So what gives here ?
April 28th, 2007 at 10:28 am
HUMMM…………
April 28th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
What question was that? I seen him jump at a few 8:15 pm
April 29th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Drugs~
April 29th, 2007 at 9:09 am
yep!!!
April 30th, 2007 at 9:05 am
yoooo!! where did everybody go ???????
April 30th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Im sick……to my stomach, i am here, jus sick 4:28pm
May 1st, 2007 at 9:07 am
Sorry to hear your not feeling well……the 2 day flu is going around….Do what people use to tell me to do dust yourself off and get back in the race!!!….I’d seem to snap out of it every time…..laughter is the best medicine you know.Of course there’s always Pepto…..
May 1st, 2007 at 9:33 am
Everyone needs to get everything out in the open and talked about then we would all feel better~
Wipe the slate clean Ashland~corruption just abounds in this little Mayberry town, you and only you can change the outcome to the possible terror that very well can happen if this is not stopped now!!!
May 1st, 2007 at 9:38 am
Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 1st, 2007 at 10:11 am
I agree there’s something just not right about all this……someone…somewhere….knows…..something….that could….change…..the outcome….and solve this crime…if they….don’t talk,then Amy, a child died at the hands of a killer that…still…to this day….walks among us. Think about it, Amy could have been your child….son…daughter…granddaughter…
grandson a child that could have given a lot to this world, think of it this way, you expect to grow old and perhaps your child is the one that you are going to have take care of all the things you worked hard for all your life, when in the twinkling of an eye, I killer has taken them from you!!! That wouldn’t happen if the people that know what happened to Amy would talk about what they know today.
May 1st, 2007 at 10:13 am
correction…A killer…sorry
May 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Thanks for concern, pepto wont help, valium …. maybe….. dunno……I want so bad to have all the answeres to this, I wish I did…. and I would hope I dont, but if I did, I need something/ someone to lead me in the direction I need to go to find whatever it is that will bust this open and end it…..soon. Maybe another Psychic and some of us could enlighten her with our own vibes and she could get something from that, who knows, I mean unless we are close to the killer(s) in a personal way…. I wouldnt think she could feel anyhting from any of us!?????? but she did have a lot to say about Amy, and Renner was not personally knowing her, so we dont know till some of us try, I dunno what else to do, the dreams are bad, and I hear screams at night, but I cant make heads or tails out of anything….. I’m swimming in confusion right now, I’m looking for a light to take me to a path of all knowing information. dont know what else to do, I guess that might be the right path, another psychic,?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:20 am
Sounds to me like you were a victim also,why else would you be having bad dreams,what other reason is there for you to hear screams, unless you were a victim of something at one point. It sounds to me like it’s your subconscious mind telling you something that your conscious mind knows already to be the truth, and your inter being is having a battle to try to get you to acknowledge that you always knew the truth. It’s your spirit talking to you.Your not swiming in confusion your fighting with your spirit within you don’t want to believe what it’s telling you for one reason or another.As soon as you accept what ever it is that is going on with you,whether it’s good or bad it will all go away.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:16 am
makes a lot of sense to me, Wow your good! ya know music use to help me a lot too, some songs have healing words in them that seem to make a person feel better about themselves, like the song Smile. It was sang on American Idol a few weeks ago, you can find it on youtube. The words go,
Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though it’s breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, you’ll by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You’ll see the sun come shining through
for you
Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Although a tear may be ever so near
That’s the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what’s the use of crying?
You’ll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just Smile.
I dunno, I like it, I think the girls name on Idol was Gina.That song makes you think everything is going to be alright again,this too will pass.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:18 am
correction-you’ll GET by
sorry
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:20 am
That’s a beautiful song, I can see where it could help someone.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:01 pm
No I’m not a victim, just reading way to far into the readings and the book, and trying to piece together everything I have read, heard, and talked about,at one point I or anyone else was or could still be around or in contact with a suspect of this crime, it chills me to the bone, and what if it is someone I know, someone I trusted around my children. Thats where I have the bad dreams, The screams come from thinking of how much she screamed before she died( bless her) How was the screams muffled out? By a train horn? loud music, construction workers? where it might have happened near these places, some one would have had something loud around them, or be wayyyyy out in the middle of no where to do that and not anyone hear her.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:02 pm
oh, and yes, it is a pretty song, with nice soothing lyrics
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:04 pm
this was on Renners blog
5-2-07
Watch Fox 8 Tonight! 5-2-07
New story about Amy’s case tonight at 10PM on Fox. The I-Team has uncovered some new info. Should be very revealing.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pm
What a bunch of crap!!!!!That fox news 8 said everything that was already known to most people except, the chipped nails and the red on the pants, other than that it is all the same. Seems to me that it is sweeps week again, so they had to put something on there about Amy to draw viewers to their channel.The chipped nails is a given~ anyone with half a brain would think that.The red on her pants , now that would be something new, what could it have been? Maybe candle wax, or red ink. Got any good guessers out there that can comment on this red stuff? Other than wax, or red ink, jello,wine,tomateos, transmission fluid or koolaid, let’s hear from you.
Oh yea this is my own opinion.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pm
I for one don’t buy what the t.v. 8 station had to say…
It in no way accounts for them calling back the trustee to have him close the road down again and saying ” there’s more to this than what they first thought”!!!And it makes no sense for them to blackout the autopsy report for so many yrs. to start with. It’s my opinion that there is way more than they are telling still!!!!
The one thing that did make sense was that the killer may not be one of the people that gave DNA.I do believe there is a woman involved too.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
They closed the road again? reciently? When was that?
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 pm
they cosed the road when amy was found, they took her down town and then opened it up just to call the trustee back over there because they said that there was more to this case than they first thought and closed it almost immediately again. they closed it again the day after Amy was found to do some measuring which took about an hr.
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Am I the only person on here that seen that helicopter land in the yard at the old McConell house back in those woods on co. rd. 500? They were taking out hunks of what looked to be drywall and put it in there helicopter and flew away.
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Didn’t anyone read the chronicle telegram back Feb. 13th 1990? Headlines ” News blackout on Amy autopsy spurs cult fears”. It said the body was found in Ashland County near Lorian and Huron County lines. Officals in all three counties have looked into complaints about possible cult activity in the past year.
Slogans such as “666″ upsidedown crosses and other “cult” graffiti have been painted on stones and walls in unused buildings in the area.
They( items painted on walls in ashland) were streight from rock album covers” one source said.
The article from the Cleveland magazine stated…
“there was a pre-event stressor”
Something that took this man from fantacy to action.
This person most likely under went some sort of dramatic change. He may have started drinking heavily or stopped drinking suddenly.
He could have started into hard drugs or quit a drug habit….
On and on this goes when will we be told the truth…nobody knows…
Now just a few thoughts of my own….
1. what was on those cut out pieces of wall that the FBI took from the old McConell place on co. rd. 500 ? Maybe the answer is in here somewhere?
2.Here’s a thought…maybe someone was divorced back in 1989…. gee whiz folks if that was something that happened then there would be a female involved right? Well now if that is the case then those two people would still be bound together by the truth of what happened so the only thing a divorce done for them was waste their money…if that therory holds water then they would be back together today as a couple, oh and if they had children of there own …. yes I can see a clear picture of that. Amy could have even been the reason for the divorce!!!!Wow what a thought!!!!Or maybe the reason was just that one of them liked little girls…in a perverted sort of way and the other couldn’t take it anymore.Or maybe the psychic was right and they fought over MONEY. This concept I assume would go….Take a kid for ransom ~ get the money ~ let kid go. Maybe not, how about,take kid sell kid to porn king get money?
It kinda looks like we may never know the truth no matter how hard we try and the truth is right in front of us.It’s someone you wouldn’t in a million yrs. think it would be.
May 5th, 2007 at 9:23 am
I’m outa here for vacation !!!!!!
May 5th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Have a safe vacation…. we will be holding down the fort
May 7th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
I have heard of the helicoptor landing and taking drywall , but I have not personaly met the woman who said she seen it happen. Just heard the info.
May 8th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
Is that the same people that are in hiding?
I herad that they seen and could ID the people that went into that house and so they went into hiding. That would mean you know that they would be the only people that knows who was involved in this case that the big wigs want to shut up!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
The one I am thinking of still lives in the ashland area, not hiding one bit!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
THIS WAS POSTED ON JAMES RENNERS BLOG TODAY HUMM… ANY TAKERS?
Tuesday, May 08, 2007
For person with info about gold fibers…
I’m trying to verify your claim. Please contact me at the email address above or explain in another post how you got that info.
Thanks.
-James Renner
May 9th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
O
The Autopsy
May 9th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
janes Renner Blog offers more info about Amy’s
Autopsy
very interesting stuff
May 13th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I know its mothers day, but lets keep in mind there are some mothers out there who’s children are missing, or souls lost, even if its mothers day, also make it childrens day, because with out them….well lets face it, we are not moms. So all you moms out there Happy Mothers Day, And dont forget to hug,& kiss your children, and tell them you love them.
May 15th, 2007 at 6:17 am
PC problems, don’t know how long will last till break down, stuff on here latley looks foolish– from renner.
has anyone ever thought about All this being attached to father?
How about– mothers babysitter?
looks to me like more things than not are going her way.
If the Sabo woman was babysitting Amy in a moments notice ,and keeping that child all night, then she would know where her mother was going and who she was with, maybe a friend of hers?? um yea!!!!!
These were money people— amy’s family not so much. 2+2= 4
Who do you suppose the Sabo family knew from this area?Money mixes with money.
Come on Renner tell me that this theory is way off base and I’ll tell you that those legs of Sabo’s daughter has you dreaming of other things!!! Your credibility on this subject is totaly gone!!!!!
Remember Mr. Sabo Killed himself~ so they say!!!!
May 15th, 2007 at 6:24 am
Yea what did it say in Renners book about the Sabo’s father? It sounded strange to me.Something about his glasses found with glass out but in his pocket and the glass under the seat on the otherside of the car from where he was setting.Sounds like a pro-hit to me. using the glasses as a way to say that he saw something he shouldn’t have.Like the guy Amy’s mother was with? I’ll bet he knew who it was and he didn’t want any part of it and was going to tell and “they” killed him.
May 15th, 2007 at 6:25 am
looks about right to me!
May 15th, 2007 at 7:26 am
You’re libeling two families that have already been put through so much. The Mihaljevics and the Sabos had nothing to do with this. Whoever lured Amy to the plaza that day said that he worked with her mother. So it could not have been anyone so close to Amy, simply because when the man showed up at the plaza she would have recognized him and known he did not work with her mother. Again, you’re looking in the wrong direction. And you’re also being rude and mean.
May 15th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
So we’re back to thinking it’s the cops again?
What about that matlock person, is he still in this?Where is he?What about those three other victims you said were dumped in Ashland county?The three before Amy.What, are you on vacation? Maybe you should go back to Ruggles and talk to those people again.You might just think about answering all the questions put before you this time,no wonder people go off in different directions.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I found this on MSN headline for Cleveland news channel 5
Cold Case Unit Hopes DNA Will Crack Unsolved Murder Cases
NewsNet5.com
5:57 p.m. EDT May 15, 2007
CLEVELAND – Through a $30,000 grant, county and city investigators are working together, specifically on cold case killings that could have DNA evidence. NewsChannel5’s Bob Jones reported that detectives now could be zeroing in on some of the suspects.
In a Cleveland police file room, there are cabinets and boxes filled with gruesome details on thousands of Cleveland slayings. An estimated 750 to 900 homicides remain unsolved.
Now, retired homicide detective Jack Bornfeld is getting a second chance at some of those unsolved cases.
He recently sifted through most of the files and found about 70 murders that could be cracked through DNA evidence.
Bornfield is part of a cold case unit, made up of current and retired officers and prosecutors, looking for any trace evidence that could heat up a cold case.
A state grant is paying the investigators to reopen the cold cases, and prosecutor Bill Mason said he knows of at least five DNA hits that could lead to charges.
A lab is now reviewing the evidence of some of the cold cases but it could take months to get results.
Maybe a little more money could help with Amy’s case also
May 16th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
why in the world would they need more money when they already know who it was in Amy’s case?The money (Grant) is for the retired officers to use to solve cases that weeeeee john Q citizen are doing for free!!! If they had done there job to start with then there wouldn’t be a need for more money!!!This Amy case is just the tip of the iceburg that floats in the waters of the evil towns in this God forsaken area!!!How many more haven’t we heard about that are just as tragic as Amy’s case? As for me being rude and mean, Renner you got that right, when it comes to a child, any child that is or has been a victim of a crime like Amy’s I’m going to be the rudest and meanest son of a bitch you’ll ever lay eyes on till that pervert is in prison!!!!!!!!Though I never knew Amy, she still had all the rights as a child to grow up and become an adult in this world just as you and I. Amy may have been able to offer the world many things, we now will never know.But when it comes to her rights there are poeple like myself that even with her long gone from this earth wish to give her the gift of respect by making the public aware that these horrible things do go on in our little hamletts. Go ahead Renner get mad, cause I’m pist!!!
May 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
That’s it tell em, I agree with you 100%
Now I would like to ask everyone out there what they think it was that was covering Amy’s body.
A. blanket?
b. crate?
c. plastic sheeting?
d. Sheet?
e. box?
f. plywood?
g. coat?
h. snow?
i. dirt?
j. cornstalks?
k. firewood?
l. rocks?
m. trash bags?
n. tree branches
o. dead bushes
p. combination of all the above?
I think it had to be something that would stay in place for awhile. Something that maybe the wind would blow off, something that would let the sun in and something that would keep animals out.
My favorite guess would be an apple crate, because it has slats where the sun could come in, hence the faded clothes. Heavy enough to keep the animals out. When the body decomposed it got smaller and the winds could have blown it over and off her body, if she was placed in it in a way that would let her legs extend after the crate blew off it would be the perfect thing,this is my opinion, what’s your’s?
May 16th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
well…. didnt someone say there was a jacket found at the site? but your Opinion is real good and would explain alot , but Im thinking the clothes were faded from bleach, (to get the killers dna off the clothing,) so they were bleached many times, but that is my unprofessional opinion
May 16th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
back in 1989 around halloween wasn’t there a bonfire in that one field in that area? I don’t remember which field it was ,do you? I’m thinking someone was having a party back about that time. Some one might have seen something then.
I heard a jacket was found close by and it had the initals AM in it. I also heard that a cop gave it to Alivin Matlock who we all know has disapeared,so they say.Makes you wonder if Renner ever found out if Matlock realy does live in Arizona or not. He seems to be avoiding this question. Good God could he be wrong?
If they used bleach on her clothes do you think they used it on her body? Do you think they gave her a bath in it like the psychic said?
Do you think the cops were schooled in forensics back then?
May 17th, 2007 at 11:18 am
Hey where are all the other people at that were on here in the begining? Some new input would be nice…..
May 18th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
when is it against the law to walk down a road?
black,green ,or otherwise?Give me a break Renner, that’s just silly!People wouldn’t be so shook up had you told them everything insteed of keeping it all to yourself which makes peoples minds travel to evil places!
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:16 am
It was said that Amy was teezed about a boyfriend she had, that was in the papers way back.And it was also said that her mother was in the area of new london -Ruggles before Amy went missing, a few yrs. before. There was a comment on here about leaving your child with certain people in Ruggles as they wouldn’t leave a dog with them. Is it possible that Amy’s mother came down here too sneek around and see a man other than her husband, and at the same time leave Amy with strangers to watch while they were out playing hump the hostess. Could it be that Amy figured this babysitter was a boyfriend for her as her mother would tell her that this was all a big secret don’t tell anyone? Um Yea !!! this is very possible, not only that but he has the same name as a suspect in Bay Village!!!!!!
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 am
never thought about it that way.
May 31st, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Soooooo, now Renner is using the word final, does that mean his last attempt at getting to the bottom of this case, or are they finally going to say who it was that done this? I hope it’s the be all end all and everyone can rest with peace of mind. He talks of a guess speaker also, could it be Amy’s father or brother? Maybe it’s Det. Spaetzel. In any event it looks to me like the case will be solved before this happens.
June 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
IN REFERANCE TO JAMES RENNERS LKAST BLOG….
SELL OUT!
June 6th, 2007 at 11:34 am
How the hell can he give up all the things he collected from people that he said were for his eyes only?What kinda jerk is he? He had balls enough to bitch about someone lying to him, when all the time he was lying to the public, saying that you can give him info. and he will not tell where it came from!!!!!!! Hell he’s putting it out there for the whole damn world to see!!!! Then on top of that he says he will only let certain people look at it!! Hey Renner I believe you owe a lot of people either money back on a book that you claimed had clues to the killer in it, which you don’t know, and apoligies all around!! What the hell planet are from???? I can see where your wife would be fed up with hearing about this case by now, it just seems to me that there is something else other than her telling you to stop,, boss,, cops,, strangers????What gives here?
June 6th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Can you believe him or what???????????
June 7th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
I can see where his wife would be fed up, but can’t believe he is just going to turn all of this information over to another person after all of the work and time he has invested in this. I would not be able to just give it up. All I can say is that I hope this sick Monster is caught soon!
June 7th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
O.K. people has any of you heard that a little girl was taken from in front of her house on Main St. in Ashland last week? She has not been found yet.The kids at school over at Edison say a car was seen and some man grabbed her. I never saw it at all in the papers. A few others had heard about it over the scanner. I guess she was wearing a polk-a-dot dress. The school kids say they are afraid to go outside, they are saying that ” they are going to do the same thing to her as Amy” Why wasn’t there an amber alert? Why doesn’t everyone know about this? Why is it so hush, hush?What the hell is going on in Ashland?
June 13th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
BLOOD STAIN IN HOUSE WHERE AMY WAS KILLED HER NAME WAS WRITTEN IN THE BLOOD WHY DID NOT THE POWERS THAT BE TAKE THAT ALONG WITH OTHER BLOOD SAMPLES. WHY WAS THE HOUSE BURNED BY THE FIRE DEPT. AFTER THE CRIME SCINE WAS FINISHED. MARTIN BROTHERS DO YOU HAVE THE ANSWER. HEY BROTHERS GO TO KY. AND GET YOUR SUSPECT. THIS IS A CLUB OR CULT AND IT GOES ALONG WAY. IS THIS THE SAME— OVER 20 YEARS AGO A REPORTER IN RICHLAND COUNTY DISSAPPEARED AFTER WRITTING A STORY ABOUT A CHILD PEDI. RING–
June 13th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
OH YES THE F.B.I. CLAIMED THE BLOOD THERE AT THE FARM HOUSE AS TYPE O NEG. AMY’S WAS O NEG. DAMN I FORGET ALOT BUT IT WELL COME OUT, IT WELL. ONEPIST KEEP RAISING HELL
June 14th, 2007 at 8:40 am
got any names?
June 14th, 2007 at 8:48 am
grapevine has said, rapist was recently found living in Savanaha, now gone, can you bend our ears on this?
June 14th, 2007 at 11:25 am
no vamps in savanna NAMES HELL YA!! LAST NAMES ARE SABO,MORRIS,DICKERSON,MYERS,LOTT,MARTINE’S, AND MATLOCK IN KY. THIS ONE FORGOT LAST NAME DANA
June 15th, 2007 at 9:48 am
It’s so easy to slander people when you get to remain anonymous, isn’t it?
June 17th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
James , just wanted to know if there are special forms to fill out to look at your notes, or are you able to just tell the people yes or no if they can see what you have in tips?Because I’m still working on my manuscript would I be able to look at your work?just thought I’d ask.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
did i slander you, no! did i slander them, no! just put fourth the facts. try it
June 18th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
dude give it a rest already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
you should have been on here from the start to get any reaction!!!!!!!!!!!!Who’s Lott? Did you make him up? You ain’t right if ya know what I mean.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm
IGOTPICTURES:
why hasn’t anyone heard of you till now?
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
some people know me by another name. when they got my address, i had some unhealthjy calls. i have been there from the begining, want to be there when they get the people. but, want to be able to walk there with my family. i should not have gotten involved again, but there are to many so called experts that read stuff then draw a picture of what the think. those poor %^#&^%$# don’t have any idea what has happened. some of us know. got there by different methods, but we know the horror that grows in ohio!!!!. spent to much time here and spilled too much info so i well say good by and keep my health until they do the right thing and arrest the people involved then you well know me and as for being a dude. maybe but i got more brass than most of them.. till then
June 25th, 2007 at 8:23 am
For those interested, the Savannah fire department contacted me today. They confirmed what Bay Village PD already told me: the blood in that house was animal blood.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Glad to hear that, they only told you half the truth! Think about this—- when people keep telling you something and you don’t care to listen, don’t you think that there might be just a bit of truth to it, otherwise it wouldn’t have been said to start with!!! That fire dept. didn’t test the blood, they not only didn’t have the means , they had no reason to. Remember they are into FIRES! After the fact at that!!!!!Now Renner start over and in no time you will see the big picture and the killers,take my word for it , you have already met them.Stop throwing out the things that seem to be to far fetched as they are the best pieces to this puzzle, otherwise you will still be chasing your tail!!!!
June 30th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
That sounds interesting.
July 27th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
it’s just a little slow around here so I’d like to say a thing or two.
this case is so confusing that the only way to make people understand what it must be like to try and solve it is to think of it as braided hair. Once you put the sections of hair together, as they’re criss crossed over and under the other pieces you finaly get to the end and it’s all together,each section contains many different hair shafts, hence one big mess if left to blow in the wind as many years as this has.
Anyone else care to comment on this?
Ann:
you made the comment that you wouldn’t leave your dog with those people in that log house, can you tell me anymore about that?
To All:
have you seen Renner’s other site, he will be making apperances again starting in the fall. It will soon mark the 18th year.
August 9th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Come on people don’t stop now!!!! we’re so close to getting to the killer, take a stand AMERICA!!!
We together can make a difference!!! This child died a horrible death… think about it she could have been your child, she could have been you!!!!! If you don’t stand for something in this lifetime YOU can fall for anything!!! I’ll be the first to stand right here, must I stand alone??? Are their no carring people left in this world?? Don’t be a do gooder be a go getter!!! God bless each and everyone of you who took time out of your life to at least look at this site and see what progress has been made, just a little more input could push this case over that hump to the end,, please help.
August 10th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
I’ve heard things, have you?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:41 am
ok, what’s up with Renner’s site?
August 23rd, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I give up!!!
first Renner’s in……
then he’s out………….
then he’s in again………..
now he’s out????????????
who’s going to update this site????????????
August 28th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Still watching—– still hoping for answers. Anyone else?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Right when I was just about to give up!
I’m still here.Answers maybe not , theories many!
most to far fetched to be real.Have you read the book Renner talks about, Silent Witness, by Richard North Patterson? He’s right a good read for what it’s worth. Can’t see how it ties in with this case? Shocking at best.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
No I haven’t yet. I will have to. I was looking back and seen something Renner wrote I think at the beginning of this month. I must’ve skipped over it. On “tips and conversations” he mentioned a potential suspect from Oberlin who had relatives in Sullivan that, commited suicide. Any idea who he was talking about?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Sorry it was written by Renner back on Nov.10
August 31st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I heard the killer is still living in the area!
August 31st, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Is that right?
I heard they were protecting him, or don’t they really know who it was?
Well now, how many people do ya think are involved? Who are THEY anyway??
September 1st, 2007 at 9:45 pm
What would make him [or her or them] so “special” that they would protect him? Think we’ll ever know now? I don’t.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Yes, we will know some day when the people all die! Or get out of office. As for me I think now it’s all a crock!They don’t want John Q Public to know because of the shame it would bring on there families and towns, other wise we would know now wouldn’t we!! It’s just a bunch of sick preverted upper class bastards that think it’s alright to kill and mame inocent children!!And for what? there own sexual bent and twisted mind disires. It’s clear to me that they think they are Gods.I give up on this case and any others like it, it’s sad to think that someone that doesn’t have children like me was so willing to help figure this all out and put these kinds of people in prision, not anymore. The next time it might be your daughter or grand-daughter.All that had to be done was everyone share info. and put the thing together!!!!!REST IN PEACE AMY RENEE MIHALJEVIC
September 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
I’m with you !
September 7th, 2007 at 8:52 am
I’m outa here too! seems people just want to set back and do nothing, it’s a damn shame.
September 7th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
just what was that nick name? I don’t remember seeing one in the book. Are they from the Ashland area or Bay village area?The Matlock you refer to , is he the one that killed his girlfriend a few yrs. ago?
September 7th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
You want to talk? Let’s talk right here right now and end this thing, I’m with you !!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Do you suppose that the reason they are protecting this person is because ” this person has given names and places of other things of importance that the FBI need to break huge cases in the ohio area or the US?” Do you think that maybe that Gina girl and that Amanda Berry girl are other girls they got but haven’t found yet? What about that story that, that Don Parsons tells of, do you know if it’s true?
September 7th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Hey , what happened to the stories about the 3 girls from Ashland county that Renner said he was going to write about on his site, who the hell were they?
September 7th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
come on pennsylvanian, what’s your thoughts on this stuff? Or is anyone else out there that can comment?Let’s hear it.
September 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
I’ve got a question: did anyone other than me find it distrubing the way that Renner talked about the way Amy’s girlfriends father was found dead? It’s in his book.I’m not trying to slander anyones name or anything like that, but wasn’t it a yr. after they found Amy that this all happened? I keep looking at the different things that people wrote and I see a connection right there. Is it just me?
September 7th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
I also knew “Wayne-no brain” as we called him. He was the one that killed his girlfriend in Greenwich. I didn’t know about the other one. As for the person following the school bus, I don’t remember seeing his name in the book. Honey, I think you were wrong about that- what page? I still would like to know who killed himself that had relatives in Sullivan but lived in Oberlin and moved to Arizona. Anyone know? I personally do not know any of the events that took place but I know some of the people in the book down here around Ashland, Ruggles, Sullivan, Nova.I would love to see an end to this so Amy can rest in peace.I do have grandchildren. I don’t understand what makes the difference whether it comes out NOW or after they die. I would think their families would be ashamed no matter what.
September 8th, 2007 at 6:00 am
I’ll have to look up the page again,it might take a few days, I know I read it in his book. If you have the book go back to where Renner talks about her friends,So if dead or alive makes no difference when it comes to shame for the family or town then that means the whole thing is going to be kept seceret just to spare them? I should think not!!! Had she been my child I wouldn’t care who the people were or what town they are from. I would want all the world to know too! People aren’t special more so one than the other when it comes to something like this or any other thing as far as I can see it.The people should be held accountable no matter what!! I don’t care how high up the ladder they might be,just look at our government they don’t just let everyone slide on things they do that are wrong!! I say lock them up, they are a danger to society and themselves.But most of all they are hurting our future, they’re killing our children.Say one, Say all.
September 8th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
I am 100% with you q-t. But what can we do if everyone who knows something is afraid to talk and nobody will listen anyways?
September 10th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Seems the website removed my previous posts???
Someone didn’t like what I had to say.
September 10th, 2007 at 11:40 am
We all need to stick together and NOT BE AFRAID. Show them that we won’t back down and that they CANNOT threaten us for what we know!
Let us take them down, soon!
September 11th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Attention…!
Everyone that attended Mapleton schools from 1989-1993 needs to please stop and think , look around you. Please come forward with what you know. Let’s pull together and solve this crime against this child and all other children. Remember the ‘kidnapper van’ from the news? Could it possibly be someone that worked for a phone company like a technician that would come to your house? Think back to 1989. Please everyone think. The answeres are right in front of us. not everyone had car phones back then. right?
September 11th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
I have some questions, sunshine. What does Mapleton schools have to do with it? Do you know something I haven’t heard? And what about cell phones-or lack of? Sounds like you heard a story I haven’t heard. Please comment. I believe it is right in front of our eyes too, like it’s too close for us to see!!!!
September 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Wasn’t a house found on 500? mapleton school district. wasn’t there a phone antenna on the white van. yes i believe it was a car phone.
The person called these girls on the phone from the van. Was anyone around working for phone companies?
After all it happened where the party house was. maybe someone might know something..!
know wonder know one wants to talk online. say something and everyone wants to throw an attitude towards them. Thank you James for rattling the chains down here again. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Just because kids drank or did what ever in that house get over it and come forward with what happend. quit being scared…
September 12th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Thank you sunshine for getting back with us. you know- I was thinking what a nice name you have, sunshine.Too bad that’s something Amy will never see again.Yes, the party house on 500 is Mapleton district. I didn’t know about the vans antenna. As for that being the place like everyone thinks down here,I bet all proof of that is gone. Ya think??? I also thank James for rattling chains,too bad he had to give up.I imagine there’s some people wanting us to do the same. I still want to know who the “suspect” was that James said lived in Oberlin,he had relatives in Sullivan,he moved to Arizona,then commited suicide after Amy was found. Any idea??? Also,why do you think the person picked Bay Village to kidnap little girls? Sorry I’m so dumb-just trying….
September 13th, 2007 at 6:08 am
I remember faintly the rumors about the white van. Are we able to somehow find out previous employers for some of the named suspects??? I know there’s a way and how, but it’s trying to find the time to do it. Anyone, what do you think? White van would be cable company, phone company, something like that. Anyone remember if any of the named suspects or who we believe is involved use to work for any place like those back then?? I was a little older than Amy when this happened, so I don’t know if I can recall.
But background checks can.
September 15th, 2007 at 7:34 am
Sorry it took so long to get back – the page I’m talking about in Renners book is the bottom of page 52 and the top of 53. I was always told that if the eyes of the victim were covered than the killer was known by the victim, in this case if the victim couldn’t see without his glasses it would basicly mean the same thing, and that folks would be murder! Strange wouldn’t you say , that shortly after Amy is found this person that knew her well is found dead? What’s your thoughts on this – any body care to share?
September 19th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
The only thing I can think of was a person of interest back at that time worked for the phone company in Cleveland and lived in the Ruggles area, he still lives in the Ruggles area today. I know the name , but that would be pointing fingers.Just who were the other girls that Renner says were dumped in the Ashland area way before anything ever happened with Amy? Renner said that he was going to do an article on them back in April I think. I keep looking on his site and this one and haven’t seen a thing about them. Has anyone else?
September 21st, 2007 at 6:29 am
Must I spell this out for you people???
An earlier post stated that a psychic said there was a man that was on the mothers side– meaning he was known to the the mother but not so much to the father, that was close to Amy, she said Amy knew him and trusted him. Now if you put that together with the ten yr. report that states this person had personal knowledge of that family, then what do you have???
YOU HAVE A DEAD MAN THAT WAS A CLOSE NEIGHBOR AND FRIEND OF THE MOTHER AND ALSO THE BABYSITTERS HUSBAND WHO DID KNOW THE MOTHER MORE SO THAN THE FATHER!!!!
Now would anyone in Bay Village care the tell everyone here what that person done for a living before he died or retired, it could lead into solving more of this puzzle.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:48 am
type O
care to tell, should have been written instead of
care the tell.
Sorry.
September 21st, 2007 at 10:08 am
Just to let everyone know, Ashland let another one walk. He lives in New London by the dollar general. Very well known for inviting very young girls to his apartment for private parties. young like 10 and 11 year olds. He is very dangerous rumor has it he killed a guy with a knife and ashland co. let him off on self defense charge and to leave the county.
September 21st, 2007 at 6:03 pm
18th anniversary of this crime.
Saturday, September 22: Brooklyn Public Library 2PM. *Reading/Signing
IS ANYONE GOING TO THIS ONE? IF YOU ARE, I AM SURE OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT WAS SAID OR WHAT QUESTIONS DOES HE AVOID THIS TIME.
September 22nd, 2007 at 6:58 am
The other girls that were dumped near where Amy was found were Tina Harmon (1981), Krista Harrison (1982) and Debbie Smith (1983). A man named Robert Buell was convicted of Krista’s murder in 84 and is assumed to have killed the others. However, I have found evidence that suggests Buell might not have committed the murders of those girls but may have participated in thier abductions and may have known the person that did kill them. The story will appear in the Cleveland Free Times this Wed. Sept. 26. It is conceavable that these other murders are connected to Amy’s. I’ll talk about it more after the artcle is published.
September 22nd, 2007 at 8:18 pm
F.Y.I.~Can you tell me more about the man living in New London next to dollar general? I have children and live in New London, they visit dollar general. How long has this person been in New London? Any information would help, is he a registered sex offender that I might find some more information on the matter? Thanks so much.
September 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
you can type in Cleveland Free Times to read the article. Makes you wonder some more. Sounds like this might be the guy.
September 27th, 2007 at 6:07 am
Type in ohio newspapers, go down the list to the cleveland free times, click on it, the article will come up.
September 27th, 2007 at 11:40 am
O.K.
I looked at the article Mr. Renner done,it sounded good, but I personally don’t think there is a connection with Amy’s case. Yes I could see similarities, those I think are just some of the things that might have been copied to make it look like the same people who killed the others.I imagine that some of the things were kept secret from the public and the only people privy to that information were police, what an interesting thought!
Anyone else care to chime in?
September 28th, 2007 at 9:45 am
This guy is about 22 years old. lives with his brother. no he never got fully charged he has been in the paper though. he likes to cary swords and knives on him and wears a trench coat and wears glasses.
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pm
I remember yrs. ago when this first happened hearring about a code that was used, I thought at the time it was something different than what I’ve heard latley. Like when someone called the house they had to know what numbers to tell the person that answered the phone, and then they would say them and it would be connected to the kids phone,Now I find out it was just a word.
I’ve got a question ,
When Renner was is in Wakemen and talked with Salyer the guy that lived at the farm where Amy was found said he woke up and looked out the window and say all this going on,
Didn’t he first say that he didn’t hear the woman knocking on the door because he was in the basement and couldn’t hear the door from there. Why does his story change now?
October 11th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Hey is anybody going to add anything new to this site ? It’s begining to get stale around here.
Renner now that a yr. has gone by, have you got any idea who the killer might be now? Or the reason for what happened to Amy? Do you still trust that the police are not part of this childs death?
Do you think that anyone in the Ruggles area is connected to the case in any way?
Do you think that the Matlock clan are apart of this case?
What is all this about Mr. Parsons is talking about? What is the deal on that case number? I’ve heard him speak on different occasions and he sounds very stable to me? Is there something I’m missing with this guy?
October 13th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Yeah, it is almost a year later, isn’t it? I think we’ve advanced the search quite a bit, really. And I still believe there will be closure in this case. But to answer a few of your questions:
The best I could do was to narrow a list of suspects down to a few individuals. Some are in the book. A couple are not. At least not directly.
No, the police had nothing to do with this. That’s “down the rabbit hole” talk, the sort of stories Mr. Parsons likes to tell. That’s rediculous.
I think the person who killed Amy has some connection to Ruggles. But that doesn’t mean they live there. For instance, did you know that a priest from the Bay Village area was seen at the diner on St. Rt. 224, having breakfast, a day after Amy’s body was found. Turns out he often when down there to stay in a cabin with his “friend”. (Just one of many suspicious characters from Bay area with some connection to the place).
I wonder about Alvin Matlock. If he had something to do with it, I would think they could get DNA from Wayne, who is in jail for murdering his girlfriend. Since they are related, it’s possible that they could get a partial match through Wayne if Alvin left his at the scene.
The key to solving this case, I believe, is finding the link between Amy and the girls from North Olmsted.
-James
October 13th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
How can you as a writter pick and chose who you believe the killer is, just tell us how you see that a cop was not involved by looking at that autopsy report.As a writter don’t you look at and listen to everything no matter how rediculous it might seem to appear.your not supposed to form an opinion your just suppose to report the news no matter what it brings whether it goes down the perverbile rabbit hole or not.You may be missing some part that someone else can put together. You do reilize that a cleveland weatherman made several trips to the Ashland area , but did anyone finger him in all this? NO ! So now what’s your point? Let’s see now you first thought it was a person from Bay (the handyman dude) then you said it was possibly Buell’s nephew, now your stuck on a link between the North Olmsted girls. Tell us again about this rabbit hole your afraid of going down!!!!!
October 13th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
OHH WOO HOO I want to hear about the rabbit hole also, there is nothing wrong with looking at ALL the options, including rabbit holes, so what if its a dead end, at lease we talked about it and can rule it out….maybe….maybe not, but we went down a lot of roads that were filled with rabbit holes, what is the big deal about this one, I say we go in with a huge spot light eyes wide open to all avenues that may intersect with this one rabbit hole some are not wanting to go in. hummmm…… lets see what we got to say about that! There is no shame in asking questions, and we are human so it’s natural to be curious,
YES I KNOW CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT…
BUT HONEY
SATISFACTION BROUGHT HIM BACK!!!!!!!
October 14th, 2007 at 11:31 am
That’s right you said a mouth full! So what is your problem Renner?
Why don’t you just try it , that way we will all know the outcome of your findings. Just listening to these people for a few minutes won’t make a case, you need to be the the type of reporter you claim to be! Investigate all avenues, I’ll bet you find out things that will change your mind on this case!!!!!
We don’t want to hear your not going to waste your time cause that’s a cop out and everyone knows it.
If you really cared about what happened to Amy to start with then you should still care now.
What do ya say?
October 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
About Donny Parsons: If you say you have talked to him you should know what an absolute NUT CASE he is. I know his family VERY VERY well. I was VERY close to his father. I know his ex wife also, she was a teacher in the area for many years. You really can’t take anything he says to heart at all, he is a NUT. Nothing else can be said about him. My God do some public record searches for him, he has caused some crazy non-sence in this community!! A COMPLETE CRAZY NUT! PERIOD!!!!
October 16th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
This is why things are never figured out… no one listens to the “nut” , they figure hes is a nut and what he says cant be trusted. Sometimes these “nuts” see everything, and know a lot but no one will listen, I say lets hear what people say about Mr. Parsons, and lets hear what Mr. Parsons has to say. My god people, its the ones that make no sense to us that are what we refere to as a wall flower, they see all know all and sit back in the shadows and listen, watching…knowing everything, and we dont notice them, cuz we are too busy being involved with the story, we never see what he sees we dont hear what he hears, well I say we listen I say we open our eyes. Crazy or not, he, and everyone else has a right to be heard, and speak. We do, and WE Do say and do what we want, no one has wrote in and said Im crazy, but hey, I get you thinking, And so do all the ‘Nuts” out there. Let every one have there moment, we have. 604 pm 10-16-07
October 18th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
YA’LL must be doing some thinking now! Humm, come on now speak your peace 718 pm 10-18-07
October 18th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
I totally agree with that.
anybody care to find out just what it is that this Mr. Parsons has to say?
The man seems to be persistant for some reason,
makes you wonder doesn’t it?
And another thing, what’s all this talk about Sullivan? It was that little town that was talked about in the news when they said that a call was traced to it in regards to Amy being found in that area. So what’s up with that?
October 19th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
I RECALL BEING TOLD THAT AN OFFICER WENT TO A HOUSE IN SULLIVAN TO CALL THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT, AFTER HE WENT TO THE SCENE AND PERSONALLY CONFIRMED IT WAS THE BODY OF A YOUNG GIRL, WHY HE HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER HOUSE AND NOT THE HOUSE HE WAS AT TO MAKE THIS CALL BUT HE DID.
MAKE YOU SAY HUMMM AGAIN, BUT I ALSO NEED ONFO ON THE CALL YOU ARE INQUIRING, I DONT QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTION IS , WHAT CALL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
October 21st, 2007 at 6:03 am
The call I’m talking about is the one before they found the body, where the guy wanted money in exchange for information as to where to find the body.
Then there was a call to a newspaper where they said the body could be found in the Tri-County area.
I don’t recall which one of those calls was the one they traced and could only go as far as Sullivan.
Then I had heard a story of an officer that left the scene and went to make a call in secret so no one would hear what he had to say.
Recently I ran across an article where a guy talks about killing children, his name was Tool(e) not sure about the spelling, anyway you should look it up and see what he has to say about this kind of killing as he mentions certain things that were done to Amy that are the same things he would have part in. Made me do a big HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! I think you will too. Whether they are the same in her case or not I have no idea, however some of the other things also fit the program.
October 21st, 2007 at 7:25 pm
where did you find this article? was it on line? can you paste the link if it was on line, i would like to read this also, thank you
October 21st, 2007 at 8:23 pm
So you are saying that a call came from Sullivan when the body was found? Sullivan is not very close to where Amy was found, some distance away actually! The closest town to where she was found is New London, Sullivan is East of Nova!
October 21st, 2007 at 10:24 pm
1freakedoutchic……
The article is listed on yahoo site,type in Otis Toole, different things will come up. If you tpye in human sacrifice/toole the article will come up that I’m referring to.
Ann……
A phone call was made prior to finding her body.
The call came in Jan. 9th. it was called into channel 3 wkyc t.v. Cleveland.The tippster wanted $20,000
to tell where she could be found, in an isolated spot in the Sullivan area. It was published in the newspaper back then.
October 24th, 2007 at 8:15 am
I’m actually glad you mentioned the call, because it gives me chance to put this untruth to rest. The article about the phone call and the $20,000 appeared in the Elyria Chronicle Telegram. It was written by a reporter named Cindy Liese. I, too, was quite alarmed by it, when I discovered the article, so I did some digging.
What I discovered was that the article was completely bogus. Not an ounce of truth in it. According to the article, the call was placed to Tom Beres at channel 3 news. I spoke directly to Tom a couple times about this. No such call was ever made. I’ve spoken to FBI and police about this. Again, let me repeat: No such call was ever made.
Cindy Liese has a habit of bending the truth to fit her needs. I’ve caught her doing it a number of times. She even quoted a policeman saying a man was a “suspect of interest” when that policeman never said such a thing.
She gives a bad name to journalists, and unfortunately, the result of her cavalier reporting is that these mistakes get taken as fact because they are printed in the paper.
In my opinion, she should have been fired a long time ago.
-James
October 24th, 2007 at 8:18 am
I’m actually glad you mentioned the call, because it gives me chance to put this untruth to rest. The article about the phone call and the $20,000 appeared in the Elyria Chronicle Telegram. It was written by a reporter named Cindy Leise. I, too, was quite alarmed by it, when I discovered the article, so I did some digging.
What I discovered was that the article was completely bogus. Not an ounce of truth in it. According to the article, the call was placed to Tom Beres at channel 3 news. I spoke directly to Tom a couple times about this. No such call was ever made. I’ve spoken to FBI and police about this. Again, let me repeat: No such call was ever made.
Cindy Leise has a habit of bending the truth to fit her needs. I’ve caught her doing it a number of times. She even quoted a policeman saying a man was a “suspect of interest” when that policeman never said such a thing.
She gives a bad name to journalists, and unfortunately, the result of her cavalier reporting is that these mistakes get taken as fact because they are printed in the paper.
In my opinion, she should have been fired a long time ago.
-James
October 24th, 2007 at 8:19 am
Sorry about the double-post. Her name is spelled Cindy Leise.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
makes sence to me, Sullivan is pretty far from where the body was found.
Thank you James for clearing that up!!
October 25th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
i was the man dressed in black that was seen on 1181. i can understand about it being “sacred ground”,but harrsing me just because of what i wear is B*******! the people in the area are suspicious of people that are frighten by my sight,because i weare a long black coat and my religion (Satanist) is not about worshiping satan,but yourselfs.there ignorence blinds them. i stayed on the road i did not go on there property and they don’t own the road. just tribute taxes to it like i do! i live onely a few houses down on twp. rd. 126. they need to mind there own business. those of you who are going to correct peoples gramer and spelling please have some respect. i personaly apologize if i sound upset, but its something i needed to get off my chest for a while. i just think there was no rashional reason to call the cops on me thats all.
have a good one everybody!
The Man In The Black coat
October 26th, 2007 at 7:17 am
I’m truley sorry to hear that the law was called on you for the way you dress, I don’t ever recall the law being called on the amish and they too are not dressed in the normal atire of the Ashland county folk. In the area you talk of is where there is a long standing fear of cults that kill, in so much as the anniversary coming up again of Amy Mihaljevic the child that was abducted from Bay Village and dumped in the area you walk. That child had no blood in her body and as far as the area people have been told she was murdered there with no one to claim resonsibility.I can see the people are afraid that it may happen again and to them or someone they love, what a terrible end that child must have suffered.She mistakenly trusted adults it appears.
There is a long time history of the gateway starting at Gore Orphanage Rd. it is said to cover three counties.Members are from as far away as Calif.and Florida I’ve been told, I was also told that you can watch and see the members coming in by way of car from 71 and fly into the mansfield airport just to be at one of these shin-digs.It’s a religon, they do sacrifices to whom ever, which is o.k. as long as it’s not a human, then it’s considered murder. There hasn’t been a human sacrificed in the U.S. since the 1800’s so they claim. We all know that can’t be so as it has been reported in many states and then debunked by the law or government groups. Chances are these are some of the members.
So, not to worry, When I see you walking I’ll just blow my horn and wave as I pass unless you care to ride in my broken down vehicle with spots of rust and gray primer paint and the door that’s a different color. Maybe I’d better watch they might just call the law on me too.
Right Back At Ya!!
October 26th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Renner explain this to us again how that reporter Cindy could guess the location that she lied about,why didn’t she just say columbus? Sounds to me like she would make a pretty good psychic.What did I miss here?
October 26th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
have you been able to connect the Westlake house to where they held Amy before they brought her out here the one that Al Matlock was known to visit just over the railroad tracks ?
October 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Is that the same Matlock guy that killed his girlfriend called Doyle or a relative of his?
October 29th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
OPEN TO EVERYONE,
Helllllllllllllllooooooo
Anybody out there?
You’ve had plenty of time to look at those articles, so what’s your opinion, anybody?
Does anyone find it strange that not one t.v. channel has mentioned the anniversary of Amys kidnapping? Are they going to drop it now after getting it all stirred up or do you think they are on to something?
October 30th, 2007 at 7:58 am
You would think Mr. Renner, would contact the stations and remind them of this unsolved murder, and possibly put in a plug for his book, I am sure sales have decreased a lil, since it came out.
October 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Ok so I don’t get a chance to check this daily soforgive me if I have missed something!
First “say what”, Ashland county is very “use” to Amish attire they have a large population of them in the area. I guess I would be very suspious of someone in a black trench coat in the area that her body was found, I guess everyone would in this area. If there was nothing to hide it should not have been a big deal to explain yourself to the police in the situation. It is hard to live in this area without wondering and worrying!
October 30th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
I believe I’ve already commented on the fear in your area.
It’s just plane stupid to stop a person for walking down the road minding their own business.
Not everyone sees amish in Ashland all the time, I could tell you a story of one man that never saw them till he moved here and then when he did he thought it was PILGRIMS !! True story.
October 30th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Renner posted on his site:::
Sunday, October 28, 2007
New Video
A very thoughtful reader has given me a copy of an old episode of “Missing Reward” which features a 10 minute segment on Amy’s case. There’s an interview with Lt. Rick Wilson, Amy’s mother, and a re-enactment of the crime. I’ll have it up on YouTube soon. So check back for the link.
October 31st, 2007 at 5:07 pm
This is Wed. still nothing!
November 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pm
THE SAME MAN THAT WAS A SUSPECT IN THE AMY CASE, THE SAME MAN THAT FOLLOWED THE SCHOOL BUS FULL OF CHILDERN …..IS RUNNING FOR A SEAT ON THE MAPLETON SCHOOL BOARD…. any takers?
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:12 am
[...] Aspects of M-Learning wrote an interesting post today on Crimerant » Blog Archive » Finding Amyâs Killer: A Talk with … Here’s a quick excerptWe shut ourselves off from the world, and that, unfortunately, leads to things like this, where girls can be taken in broad daylight across the street from a police station and … [...]
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 am
To onefreakedoutchic,
I am glad I am not the only one paying attention to that. How can you try to run for the school board when you ARE a suspect or WERE a suspect??? I still wish we could have an updated name list on the suspects. I also thought it was very awkward that there was nothing on tv about the anniversary date. I think that they are on to something.
James, do you have the link to the youtube video clip yet?? I am very interested in seeing this. Do you have any more news? Why didn’t any tv shows mention her anniversary?? What is your opinion on that??
November 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 am
Someone spamed this site? How rude!!!!!!
November 4th, 2007 at 5:17 am
Hey SayWhat?
What do you mean someone spammed this site?
November 4th, 2007 at 7:20 am
unless you can explain — sell off vacations –
then that’s what it looks like to me, unless that’s you.
Still no update on this case, what do you think is going on everybody?
November 4th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
NOTHING- absolutely nothing!
November 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
looks like someone wants to divert our attention to going on vacation or the case is on vacation, or like you said someone spamming this site, that is rude…. unless it is a someone wanting us to look into who owns the site…or someone who reciently went on vacation or is on vacation that is or was a suspect or our killer is in this part of the world on vacation or left the country to live there to advoid being caught…..or like you said someone spamming this site, sometimes I just read into things toooooo much, sorry, but thats why we are here trying to put together all the pieces, it could be something or nothing at all
November 5th, 2007 at 10:18 am
Sorry, I get it now. No, that wasn’t me–sell off vacations. That’s just wrong.
No more news yet. I want to know what is going on. I wish James could tell us. I hope something is going to happen. Like maybe the cops are “laying low” for now tring to make the suspects think that it’s going away. (I don’t want to believe otherwise!!!)
November 5th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
James
In regards to Cindy Leise reporting Amy’s body being found in the Sullivan Area. I believe you have let your personal feelings toward her and the opinions of others cloud your vision. I am sure what you said has been based on something. That doesn’t change the fact that the body was found 5 miles from Sullivan. I heard the report on T.V. and did not belive it for a minute, but I had to reconsider it when the body was found. If she did’nt have something to base this on then she is an amazingly good guesser.The odds of that are long, If you were to sit down and think about it. I am sure the person who did this did not see it in the news and decide to put the body there. In my opinion something was overlooked and someone didn’t tell all.
November 6th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
I said the samething back in Oct.. Renner never answered me either.
Hey, where’s the video?
November 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Videos coming. It’s on VHS and I need to get it transferred to digital.
And I believe that report came out after Amy’s body was found down there.
-James
November 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Mr. Renner,
glad to see your still here!
I have questions, What is going on with this case? Why wasn’t something said about the anniversary of the crime? I watch every year without fail and something is said, why not this year? Why are things being removed from your site as well as this one?
Here’s a big one for ya….. It was reported that a young child ( female) was missing from a house in Ashland just before school let out in the spring, I heard it myself over the scanner, children that went to the same school say she never was found and when I had someone check with the school just a few weeks ago they told me that they were married to a cop in ashland and she would know if it were true or not and she said not. Problem…. the children at the school say that the woman is a liar and the girl is still missing as their teachers are still talking about it, I had a call from a neighbor who also heard it on the scanner. So what gives??????
November 11th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
James Renner:
Is it possible that the reason you don’t answer any of my question is because you’ve been told not to say anymore about this case at this time?
November 12th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Honestly, no. I can tell you that I received a load of new tips in the weeks leading up to the anniversary of Amy’s abduction. I’m trying to sort through everything right now.
Lately, I’ve had this feeling that I may have overlooked an important tip sometime in the past and I’ll be visiting Kent State archives to go over my notes to try to find it. I will tell you this. I am interested in any info about suspects living–or who have lived–within a 5 mile radius of County Rd. 1181. I’m not interested in the guy running for school board (I’ve looked into that). And I’m not interested in Matlock or the guy out on 1281. But if you know of any other suspects that live within 5 miles of that location, and had some connection to Bay Village and/or Lorain County, please let me know.
One more thing: 19 Action News is working on a story that is slated to air Nov. 27 at 11PM.
-James
November 12th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Thank You So Much for an answer!
THE END IS NEAR !
November 13th, 2007 at 10:13 am
James,
Thank you so much for hanging in here with all of us. I hope you find that tip in the archives.
November 14th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Just because you don’t hear from me, doesn’t mean I’m not thinking about this everyday.
Again, for anyone with confidential information, you can reach me at jrenner@freetimes.com
-James
November 15th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Does anybody remember the guy that moved from Bay to Ashland that built that bunker?
November 16th, 2007 at 8:24 am
No, I dont know who that was. But maybe someone else will. Let’s definately keep this going!
November 16th, 2007 at 10:20 am
someone on the other site , I think said he was divorced.I believe it was the ex-wifes friend that wrote in, does anyone know who she is?
November 16th, 2007 at 10:59 am
I’m sorry, but which other site? Also, James I am from Sullivan, so if you have any questions and I can help let me know. Thank you for checking into the suspect running for Mapleton school board. Thats a relief!!
November 16th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
James has his own blog spot for the book and Amy.
hey do you know who the guy was that had the bunker?
November 16th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
ANN:
do you have an idea of who they were talking about?
November 16th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
saywhat?
Are you able to tell us what month that the ex’s wife’s friend blogged? Dec.? Aug.? Sept? I’ve been reading and reading and trying to find it?
November 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Jan. 5th 2007
November 16th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
In the article following that one it talks about a man that worked at a golf course with the initails R.E.H. Anybody know who that was?
November 18th, 2007 at 7:45 am
Very interesting. I went back to read Jan. 2007. The guy that worked at the golf course initials R.E.H. always talked about cults and kidnappings. Why wouldn’t the girl who worked with him just give his name??? It stated that he lived in Bay Village before moving to Ashland.
Also I think the blogs from Paula Varney and about Pat Stokes would somehow have some clues.
Pat Stokes, are you able to tell us who is the son of the man that owned the cabin at the time of Amy’s death???
Paula, do you remember what the guy looked like that stopped in your store and stated that he knew where Amy was being held before she was brought out here?? He said something about a cop being involved? Did he say a cop’s name? Did you happen to get a description of his vehicle? Did he make a purchase using a credit card or a check to maybe find out who he is?? Why would someone just passing through, see the poster of Amy and ironicly say that and then draw a map? It doesn’t make sense. I would love to know who this guy is. I believe he may truly know something!!
James Renner, what do you know that Liz Russ told you but she would not let you put the info. in your book??? Can you tell us anything about that conversation with her???
I just ordered the book that was talked about a while back. Cult That Kills. I believe it’s about real people giving their opinions on cults that exist or did exist in the Norwalk area. Also Dale Griffis is a retired sheriff form Tiffin, I read in a previous blog and is a or was a leading authority on cults. In my heart, for some reason my gut instinct is telling me this is cult related. I think it’s more horrific or disturbing than what we are being told. James, have you talked with Dale Griffis on this???
I also believe that Amy’s blood was in that house and rumor that Her name was written on the wall with blood. Someone has pictures of that, I believe. Why is that being overlooked, or covered up? Just reading and reading hoping we can dig up some more clues.
Igotpicutures, I know you are still reading. I know you were obvioulsy threatened in some way. I wish you weren’t afraid to talk. I understand you fear for your family’s lives. But maybe YOU are the one who can help solve this and put Amy to rest. Can you please come back and talk? What do you know??? Who threatened you and how, why???You said experts have no idea what happend to Amy & about the horror that grows in Ohio??? Do you believe this is cult related?
November 20th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
I think you should keep reading, as many of the answers to the questions you ask are already on one site or the other.
As to your last question: yes most definatly in some form or another. Like I said keep reading.
November 21st, 2007 at 11:32 am
SayWhat? Obviously you are NO help in solving this. You just like conflict. I would not be asking these questions if they were already answered, thank you. And if they WERE already answered, why are you being so difficult??? This is about solving this case not about whether stuff has already been answered or not. I think it’s great to keep asking questions so we don’t miss details or possibly overlook something.By the way,I wasn’t even asking you FYI!
November 21st, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Just what this case needs —A hot head!!
What I am trying to say is that a lot of the questions have been answered already and all your doing is wasting peoples time in hashing over it again and again, if you just understand what you read you would have some of the answers already.
I truly didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers.
Happy Thanksgiving
November 21st, 2007 at 5:20 pm
The only reason James Renner was not allowd to say anything that I said is because I have been working on my own book for a very long time.I don’t know who the killer is.
Liz Russ
November 21st, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Thank you for clearing that up AGAIN!!!
November 22nd, 2007 at 6:45 am
Liz, I am sooo sorry that I wasted your time.I am only trying to help solve this case. Thank you for your response. Can’t wait for your book!!!
Saywhat? AGAIN I am NOT talking to you so I am not wasting YOUR PRECIOUS time! Anyone else on here if I am wasting your time on trying to solve this case I do apologize to YOU. Boy, I bet alot of people have wasted poor Renner’s time,then. AGAIN, I am all about helping solve this to put Amy to rest and so I can sleep better at night knowing my sisters are not living in the vicinity of the murderer(s). Any other mothers out there in that area know exactly what I am talking about.
Saywhat? You should actually have some descency and feel bad that you are turning people off from being on here because you are so cocky! Get over me wasting your time and come to the reality of this all. IT’S NOT ABOUT WASTING YOUR TIME!!! IT’S ABOUT DOING THIS FOR AMY. I am not a hothead, I just tell it like it is! So sorry that offended you!
November 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 am
I completly understand your concern about your family. You haven’t been here from the get-go either so don’t you think I it’s alright for me to call them as I see them also!Your no different than anyone else on here, after all this is an open forum. Stop your knit picken. Anybody can talk on here, I’m not trying to run anyone off here as you put it, all I was saying was read more of the things on both sites and you will see the answers to your questions. I’m not going to feel bad at all for being on here as I’m an adult with very different opinions on this case which is much needed as nothing else seems to have made a difference.I’m not cocky, you just have an attitude which makes me think you are all of about 18. As for decency I have more decency than you ever dare to think of or you wouldn’t be attacking my comments.So now if your concern is all about Amy as mine is why are you doing that?
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pm
My, MY…!
I think we need to take a close look to all people around us. You might be surprised at what you see through the looking glass. Murderers are probably all around us. We just need to look harder at all of our neighbors… For some reason or another I think we are over looking this person or persons because we’re looking for a certain look. Like the guy in the black coat. It’s someone so obvious to us we have to be over looking the plainless of the guy. After all after sundown people wear cloaks of many colors…
November 24th, 2007 at 10:32 am
In yonder Meadows don’t you know!
November 24th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Sunshine,
Have you ever heard of men walking in the fields close to the area that the body was found in wearing black cloaks? It was brought to my attention a few yrs. back. I was just wanting to know if anyone else had seen them? How about you Pennsylvanian? There were several in a small group.
November 26th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
James has a new post on his site.
November 27th, 2007 at 6:03 am
WOW! You really need to not argue, life is too short and fragile to argue all of the time!
November 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
It isn’t me.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:01 am
The link to the Missing Reward video is up on my blog http://www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com
November 29th, 2007 at 10:12 am
I just wanted to clear some things up. First I have been around from the getgo. I was born and raised in Sullivan in 1976. I am married and I have 3 kids and moved 4 yrs ago to Pennsylvania. Before I moved to PA I lived on County Rd 1189, right across from where her body was found. This is personal to me. And as I said you have driven me off here, I don’t have the patience to deal with people like you. Sorry. You can let me know when the murderer is found, if ever!
November 29th, 2007 at 10:30 am
Sorry, correction I lived on County Rd 581.
November 29th, 2007 at 11:30 am
Shame you never grew-up! Again your concern is very lacking at this point. What was meant by from the get-go was ,,, you weren’t on this site!!
seems it’s all about you,, you ,, you! Good I’m glad your gone, we don’t need your hot headed self centerd bullshit here anyway!!
Tell us where is co. rd. 581 in comparison to finding her body ???
Please excuse me folks but I’ve had it with this one!
November 29th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Pennsylvanian- TOO much information! you promised me.I know you were upset-but correction again, it was 1181.Please stay off this site. It’s not worth it.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
I know you were here from the beginning, but under a different name just like I was and we didn’t talk sooooo loud.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
Oh the plot thickens!
So what do you two know that your not telling?
I know it had to be something or you wouldn’t have changed your names.
Let me make one more correction for you, You don’t live at the same place anymore. I know this to be fact!
November 30th, 2007 at 10:21 am
People. This is unacceptable behavior. This is a messageboard where we can generate information about Amy’s case. I think the back-and-forth personal attacks should end here. Please.
Everyone is welcome here.
Take a look at the new video and tell me what you think.
-James Renner
November 30th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
To James,
The new video is very real. I think it brings back the true sadness of what happened to this innocent child and her family.
I hope someone finds it in their heart to come forward with something they know.
Thank you James for your thoughts and dedication.
Paula
November 30th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Pennsylvanian~ I would think remembering what road lived on would be an easy thing to remember! I am not “attacking” just thinking out loud.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
The video was interesting! There seemed to be alot of places marked on the map with pins in this area. Did anyone else notice that?
I agree with Paula 100%! Thank you James for all you have done and are doing to help bring this monster down!!
God Bless!
November 30th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Everyone keeps talking about Sullivan, She was found in between Ruggles and New London. which is a few miles from Sullivan!
November 30th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t that map with the pins in it also show a possible line from where she lived to where she was found? Like a dark color and then white and then back to dark.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Mr. Renner, When you visited Ashland library you showed a video , I belive it was about the fbi and how they go about solving crimes step by step, and they used Amy’s story as an example could you post that to youtube also , thank you
December 1st, 2007 at 8:02 am
your right it does look that way, that is just a reinactment of the story so they might be off just a tad. Still it is odd that it looks like a streight line from her house to where she was found.
December 1st, 2007 at 8:10 am
I always question things like that, you never can tell when it might have a different meaning.
Mr. Renner:
When are they putting that on 19 news? I’ve watched and waited and waited and watched still I haven’t seen anything, so what’s up with that?
December 1st, 2007 at 8:23 am
I looked at the tape, it made me think that this person was telling her to go get her bike and maybe moving in that direction. If that is the case then maybe there was a car waiting in the parking lot at that gas station that was torn down behind the dry cleaners.She could have gotten that far and he could have said no let’s come back for your bike and when she saw the driver of the car she went ahead and got in because she knew him. What’s your thoughts on this folks?
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 am
that’s a real interesting theory, have they looked into that yet? That would explain why no one saw them leave from that shopping center. It never made any sence to me why with all the people in the shopping center not one person seen them get into a car. Your probably right.
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 am
Got any other theories as to what really happened to Amy from there?
December 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 am
I do, but who knows? I’ve been writting about them for years.
Mr. Renner:
Do you still think the killer is from the Bay area?
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:01 am
I think the killer is intimately familiar with both Bay Village and Ashland County.
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:56 am
Mr Renner :
I also belive this person has knowledge of both areas, I believe that it is possible he may have stayed or lived in neighboring towns such as Westlake and Norwalk, or been known by people from there.I had heard at one time that there is a female that knows what happened to Amy also. Have you got anything on that?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
I’ve heard rumors. Nothing substantiated, of course. Someone out there other than the killer knows what happened. I’m quite sure of that.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Just a heads-up I did hear two days ago that matlock is back in the state. nothing else available on that.
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm
A female huh? could it be the killers wife, lover,sister, person who helped the killer kill Amy? or you think she just knows the person killed her? I have thought for a long time that someone else knows what happened, gosh maybe a shrink!!!! they by law are not allowed to give out that info unless that patient dies,(unless I an mistaken and its an attorny that cant give whatever info the client gives to them) both ways I dont think the killer would ever make it to court, due to possibly being more than 1 killer involved in the crime, they would kill that person before thay got a chance to tell the truth. Good grief will we ever know the truth!!
December 4th, 2007 at 7:53 am
Someone posted way back, on the other site I think ,that it was a girlfriend.From what I read it looked like she didn’t know she was involved. It is intresting you should mention attorney because that was also brought up before.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:04 am
Mr. Renner:
It was said that there was a person in the witness protection program,if so, do you think it is possible that it might be that girl that was in the van that matlock attacked in Norwalk? And is it also possible that she was a cop? I know from talking to people in D.C. that they don’t always change their names but they do protect them in other ways. What’s your thoughts on this?
December 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Mr Renner:
I spotted something in the first minute of that tape, was it put there for a reason?
Did you ever find out about that name or map?
December 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
LIZ RUSS:
THE CRATE WITH AIR HOLES IN IT? WAS IT SOMETHING IN THE ROOM THAT THE GIRL WAS IN WHILE ON THE PHONE?
December 9th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
In the first 16-21 seconds of the tape.The camera seems to come up to it then over to Keatch.Do ya think that means something?
December 9th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
yes the crate.
December 10th, 2007 at 9:45 am
A lot of people noticed the man uses the name “Frank”. I checked with Bay Village PD. That was just something the producers and/or the actor from Missing Reward put in there. Not based on any tip from police.
The map is interesting, though.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:59 am
How can we find info. on that map?
December 15th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
I don’t give up so easy, I have a few questions that have been bothering the heck out of me!
1. Do you still think that someone will be arested before the end of the yr?
2. I’d really like to know in all this mess just where the police officer came into the picture? Everybody keeps saying that a cop was involved, so who said it first and why? And was it a cop from Ashland County or Bay Village?
3. It was also said that the killer left his so called signature on the body, what was that, and if that’s so then why are they waiting to get this person? Claims have been made that the authorities know who the person is.
4. The reports say that it was blunt force truma to the head along with other things that killed Amy, so tell me what was used to hit her in the head and was it ever found? I think there are still a few answers that need to come out here.
December 16th, 2007 at 9:20 am
1. Unfortunately, an arrest by the end of the year seems unlikely. There has been significant progress on the case, though.
2. I don’t believe there’s any evidence to suggest a police officer was involved.
3. No signature left on the body. You may be confusing this with reports of possible DNA/fingerprints left on the body. I do believe that the killer may have left behind something like that.
4. No idea what she was hit on the head with. It wasn’t found near her body as far as I could tell from the coroner’s report.
December 16th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Still more questions,
1. It seems that most people agree that Amy was killed on co.rd.500 or in that immediate area, why then would the killer move her body to co.rd.1181?
2. Would it have been the killer that moved her body, or could it have been someone that discoverd the body and knew who it was by the discription and didn’t want the people that owned the house where she was killed to be held responsible for her death.
3. Could it have been a cop, who’s unorthodox teachings to backwoods hilligans lead him to remove the body before he was found out.
4.Could it have been those very hilligans that just done it for fun to see how thier “teacher” would react?
December 16th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Does anyone know if the DNA of the one suspect
that Lt. Spaetzel hadn’t gotten yet as of
November last year has been obtained?
If so does the kind of DNA and its
location indicate whether an arrest can be
made or does there need to be more linking
evidence?
December 16th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
TO ONEpistAmerican
OMG! OMG! OMG!
(FOR THOSE THAT DONT UNDERSTAND THAT IT MEANS OH MY GOD )
UM WOW, THAT IS A LOT OF VERY GOOD QUESTIONS AND SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO, AS WE SAID LETS GO DOWN THE ROAD EVEN IF ITS A RABBIT HOLE
December 17th, 2007 at 10:10 am
There is no evidence that Amy was murdered in the house on C.O. 500. It’s my understanding that the blood was tested and found to be from an animal, not a human.
December 17th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Sir,
you have been mislead!
I know for a fact that there was human blood in that house.I use to go to that house with people that would do blood letting and fling it everywhere! You should check further.I’m sorry but I will not stand by and listen to all this as being not true about the goings on in that place. It’s a known fact that the people that owned that house back then were reputable people and wouldn’t want their name tarnished.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Can anyone tell me why the barn was torn down on the corner of twp. rd. 581 and twp rd. 350 just after Amys’ body was found? It was done within a week.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
I do think alot has been covered up for whatever reason, perhaps to not hinder the case??
The comment made about “backwoods hilligans”, what exactly is meant by that?? It to me it is VERY offensive. I am just asking what EXACTLY that means?????
December 18th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Ann:
Get a grip! No one was talking about you , unless you had something to do with this case. I can assure you that it ain’t cuss words! It was slang for the type of people that has no regard to human life, that would do anything because they were raised deep in the lands where cizilization has not yet recognized the light bulb,toilet paper,or when someone says bar they are not talking about an animal! Gee Whizz,( meaning uneducated people) can we get on with this already?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:48 am
You people on here on something else, and I am sure have offended several people from what I can see. I Had NOTHING to do with this case I was a CHILD when she was killed, it scared me as a child and that is the only reason I have any interest in the case at all, and for YOU to accuse me of any wrong doing is completely WRONG! You don’t even know who I am, I’ve never even had so much as a traffic violation, so DON’T make a statement about me that you know nothing about. You people really need to get back to what really matters on this site: finding the monster that killed this poor little girl. You have all made your little comments about James also, he is atleast doing something to help find the killer unlike all of you who stand and argue about studid crap, and make general statements about the people in this area like we are somehow beneath you!! GROW UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2007 at 9:57 am
I didn’t accuse you of anything, reread it.Your the one that is making stupid comments, I just answered them. Argue with yourself I’m not into that type of thing.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Still wanting to know about that barn…. does anyone have any answers? The place was right on the corner.
December 24th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
“Merry Christmas Everybody”
December 26th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
THANK YOU , AND SAFE NEW YEAR TOO!!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Now that it’s coming up another year of the discovery of Amys’ body is there anyone who would like to do a review of what has been uncovered so far? I was thinking we might have some kind of pattern here.
January 10th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I’m back on the case for awhile. Check out the blog (www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com) again when you get a chance.
-James
January 12th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Mr Renner:
Nice to see you could make it back, I hope the holidays went well with your family.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot latley and I have one senerio that might sound strange but it would answer a question or two about this case when there doesn’t seem to be an answer. Here goes:
If (because I don’t know, I’m just guessing) an attorney was involved and he knew all about what happened because he had a client that was involved that came to him and told him everything that happened and the police think that he(the attorney) did have something to do with the case and requested his DNA and he refused, he already knows there wouldn’t be a match so he refuses his DNA which would make him look like the guilty party when in fact it is his client and not him and his client is now in the witness protection program. It might look like we are all chasing our tails, however if we look for the person who was his client then we would be on to something.
If that is the case then the person we should be looking for is the one with initials JS which is the person that “didn’t want to do the thing” according to your story from when you talked to the psychic, which may have some merit. It would also bring you to the place from which Amy was known by this person, again the address is also in that same story( the bend in the road)( the field). I don’t know these people and I didn’t know Amy, I’m just guessing.It does in fact put things in the right places if it happened that way, you would then have your connection with the Bay area and also the Ruggles area.Now the reason for it would probably go in different directions, this I’m assuming is why the case got all scrambled up.Even the attorney’s client didn’t kill Amy he was just in the right area, however his guest may have been from the Ruggles area and possibly been the killer or one of a few in a small group that done other things and got carried away with themselves and it just happened.
What’s your thoughts on this?
January 13th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Mr Renner:
One more thing, it would also explain the comment made by the woman that ” your going to get caught for doing that to that little girl” ! She would have been speaking to one of the guest at the home of JS.The comment he made after hers was” nobody cared about that little girl anyways” could have been his conclusion of what he had seen when Amys mother through her boots out the window and watching her from the house of JS. while he was visiting.
I’m fairly certain that JS had to live within walking distance of Amys’ house, he could have lived so close that he could see her house from his house.It was said that Amy and her friend would play on the railroad tracks smashing pennies.The woman that made the statement must have seen Amy in the neighborhood and reilized that the people that were guest just like her had been the ones that abducted Amy. If that’s the case then they probably were also at the stables if for no other reason than just to watch the kids and horses at practice.Which means they knew the area!
Again your thoughts on this?
January 13th, 2008 at 8:54 am
WOW!!!
You know that psychic also said she saw a sign that said Lakewood, could she have meant Westlake?
Westlake is just on the other side of the tracks from Amy’s house. Do you think that JS could have lived there? Are there houses close in that area?
January 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Hey,
I just went to my yahoo satillite maps and looked.A newspaper article said Amy lived on Linford Drive. It does show that Westlake is just behind Linford Drive! I also saw that feild and the bend in the road! It looked like there might be houses too, but I couldn’t tell for sure.It shows a road called Ranney that is on the Westlake side but if you fallow it,it goes up to Wolf and Dover Center Road where the ice cream store was where Amy was last seen.Why haven’t we heard anything about this?
January 14th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
There was an attorney who lived on Linford who was, at least, a so-called “person of interest”. He’s always avoided me when I’ve tried to contact him for an interview, but I am trying again. Neighbors called him the “Creep of the neighborhood”.
-James
January 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Ann,
If you would like, come out to Crescent Moon, I have a picture of someone you might be interested in. Hope to see ya soon. Paula
January 21st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Paula, How do you know who I am???????;)
January 27th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Mr. Renner,
How about an update?
January 27th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
What happened to the A.M.Y. site? I can’t bring it up. A.M.Y. stands for assisting missing youth.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
That site hasn’t worked in awhile now.
January 28th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
I’ve met with two more men this week who were asked to give DNA to police. Some very interesting info from both of them. I’m trying to figure out what to do with the info. I will share some nuggets soon, because I think it might stir up some leads, but I want to gather some documentation first.
I am still looking for the name of the suspect who has been avoiding Bay Village police.
-James
January 29th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Thanks for the update!
Now will you be sharing those nuggets soon?
I’m sure someone out here in net world will have some more pieces that will fit with what you have gathered. Most likely a few things won’t. So the best thing to do is to get the word out as soon as possible,I wouldn’t worry about documentation untill you hear what the public has to say.Chances are it will go faster.
January 29th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Document only what the public hasn’t disregarded and don’t waste your time on the rest.That’s what makes a good P.I.Your followers know what’s good info. and what’s not. I’d go with it.
January 30th, 2008 at 8:09 am
I know that’s the way I’d do it, with another anniversery of finding her body coming up and all. You might have what it takes to solve the case before that day. I say let’s hear it!!!
February 2nd, 2008 at 8:16 am
Mr. Renner:
When can we expect an update? before or after the anniversary of Amy’s body being found? I’d really like to hear something at this point. Otherwise I feel I’m spinning my wheels.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Has anyone else noticed that you still can’t get the A.M.Y. site and Brent Larkins comments have been removed?
Have we come full circle? Are we soon to hear the names of people involved and the killer to boot?
I say YES!!!!! Bring it on home James !!!!!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Does this have something to do with that court case O23029 the sixth circut federal court? That is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all the answers for Amy’s case is there.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
What court case? I am lost! Has this been on the news? I dont get to watch tv too often, could you fill me in about this court case O23029 the sixth circut federal court? thank you
February 4th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
This was a case that a gentleman in New london had filed awhile back. Very intense situation, as I recall somewhere on here you mentioned his name.I’m positive you know who I’m talking about.You would also have knowledge of the situation if only in bits and pieces.I too have heard some of the pieces streight from him, it’s really a sad story and an eye opener at the same time.You just wouldn’t think that in the New London and surrounding area these types of things go on………………….
February 5th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I would appreciate you sharing what you know about it, being a New London resident with children! If you could. . .I understand if you feel you can’t.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
ANN:
I belive this may be the answer your looking for
scroll up
October 11th -
October 16th, 2007
SAYWHAT: If I am wrong please correct me
February 6th, 2008 at 7:13 am
I have looked up the court case number but it does not give much info. (go on Pacer website) Just about foreclosure. I know who filed the case but how does this tie in???
February 6th, 2008 at 9:15 am
1freakedoutchic:
your correct.
Pennsylvanian:
you too are right, however it’s not just the foreclosure.There are many other things I’m sorry to say that lead to that.
Ann:
I, just really can’t comment on what all this is, I’m sorry. I might be able to give you a hint, ask me a question.
February 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Wow, my wheels are really turning, now.
SayWhat? Thanks for the response. Maybe this is a little more bizarre than what I thought it to be??? I really hope this is coming to an end, soon! Your comment about it’s a sad story and an eye opener that it happened in a place like New London has got me freaked out about what really happened. I know am thinking do I REALLY want to know???
James,
Do you have anything else yet? I know you’re working hard but the curiousity is killing the cat, know what I mean?
February 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Pennsylvanian:
It’s not just New London it’s also the surrounding area.It’s so far out there even a spaceship couldn’t reach it!!!!!
February 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I have to say you have really got me thinking too!! And worrying ALOT!! I wish some more could be said so that I personally might figure out what is really going on for the saftey of my own children living in the New London area! It is really freaking me out a bit. . . .
February 7th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Ann:
have you gone to look at the picture yet, and is it a personal family picture or maybe a piece to this PUZZLE? Please let me KNOW!!!
February 8th, 2008 at 7:07 am
I haven’t gone, it is possible IF Paula has figured out who I am that it might be a personal photo! But I haven’t been out there. I figure this is too serious of a matter to use my first name on here!! I have children to worry about!!
February 8th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Ann,glad you’re smart in not using your first name! That’s why I changed mine from the very beginning of all of this. I, too have family and kids to worry about.
Anyone, I’m wondering about this Matlock, I knew him as “Wayne, No Brain” back then. He murdered his girlfriend supposedly because she was leaving him. Did he maybe confide in her about something and it scared her enough to want out so he murdered???? Just a thought I can’t seem to get rid of.
Ann, if you feel uncomfortable visiting Paula to see the photo, maybe Paula can attach it to an e-mail for you???
February 8th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Mr RENNER:
How about an up-date now that it’s another anniversary of finding Amy’s body there in Ruggles.
February 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Ann,
It was just a old baby picture. I’ll keep it in my photo album for now.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Paula
February 8th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
It kinda looks like MR. RENNER has lost interest in this agian already. You would think that today of all days he would certainly let the public know something about this case.If there’s no changes in the case he should at least say so. Either that or he can’t say because maybe they’re just about to make a huge public statement! I vote for the ladder!!!
February 9th, 2008 at 8:52 am
this site is getting stale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks like Renner doesn’t even want to talk on it!!!!!!
you people might as well just give up cause this case isn’t going anywhere!!!!!
looks like the steps you all are climbing go streight up to some government offical…..
after all that would be the only reason it hasn’t been solved!!!!!
see what your tax money pays for……….
February 9th, 2008 at 9:25 am
I’ll update soon. Within the next couple weeks. I have not lost interest.
-James
February 9th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Thank you James for the needed update. I’m sure we’ll hear more soon.
qt: that is a strange thing to say, but we all have had different thoughts on this case. It could be just about anything a person could imagine I guess.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Paula I kinda figured that might be the case! Hope you and Robin had a good birthday!
February 11th, 2008 at 7:07 am
I was just thinking, James didn’t discount what was said by q t about the government offical do ya think that it had something to do with that “new” job Amys mother got back then? Just a thought. It was with some office dealing in government. Does anyone remember what that was?
February 11th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Amy’s mother worked as a victim’s rights advocate for Lee Fisher, when he was AG in the early 90’s. I do not believe there is any connection with any government official.
The guy who did this lived in Bay or Ashland at one time or another. And he’s not the type to hold a position of authority, in my opinion.
I’ll have more soon.
-James
February 11th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
James you say that like you KNOW who it is? Any new leads??
February 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
ANN:
The guy who did this lived in Bay or Ashland at one time or another. And he’s not the type to hold a position of authority, in my opinion.
Don’t you think if he knew,we would all know. I think Mr. Renner is saying based on other findings such as the 10 yr. report the guy was just a plan everyday no responsibility type guy.I’m not trying to sound sarcastic so please don’t take it that way.He is just giving his opinion same as me.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:55 am
There are some very promising new leads. My thoughts on this case have changed significantly in the last three weeks. When I can talk about it, I will.
Be patient. I promise I’ll have something posted by the end of March at the latest. Hopefully sooner.
-James
February 12th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
renner,
dude,I don’t think you know what the hell your talking bout. The thing started out bay or ashland , now it’s bout 20 yr. later and nutin changed! dude looks like your chasen yur tale AGAIN.dont think you got nothin new, yu jist like ta se peopl talk bout this kid.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:24 am
We’ll see.
February 13th, 2008 at 8:42 am
You tell them James!
February 13th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
James,
I don’t want to miss your new book when it comes out, can you give us a date when that will be released and when you will be making appearences again?
February 13th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
ok what did i miss? there is a NEW book coming out?
February 14th, 2008 at 10:05 am
I’m also putting together a “new chapter” in the ongoing saga of Amy’s unsolved case, which will appear in a collection of True Crime stories that I am writing for Gray & Co, which will be released this year.
he posted this on his site.
February 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
oh, I guess it would help to check both sites sorry
February 15th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Sometimes we forget when nothing is posted there in a long time.
February 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
anybody out there?
February 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
It looks like we are all going to have to wait till Mr. Renner says something to us again. I can’t believe this is the end of this site after all this time!Doesn’t anyone have a comment?
February 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Its not the end….Its will be a new begining!
February 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I check it often, just waiting for some information!
February 18th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I do too, on a regular basis. Just like putting on my shoes.
February 20th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Check Mr. Renners site….
He has a picture of a………
February 21st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I’m just a little mift about this so called new stuff that Renner is keeping to himself. I looked up the guy in the picture on his site( Ohio offender search ) and it says, this guy is into little boys not girls! He had nothing to do with anything about Amy! Just like I thought he’s trying to keep everyone hanging on for nothing! The rest of the stuff he has can’t be much or the police would have the info. and someone would be in jail already, and their NOT!The whole case seems to me like it’s centered in the Ashland County area. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
You’re welcome to your opinion. But I do know for a fact that Brian Keyes was an equal-opportunity pervert. Girls, too. He’s interesting enough, in my opinion, to warrant a DNA check (which, I imagine, they would already have since he’s serving time in prison on felony charges).
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 am
Well then , if they already have it, wouldn’t you think they already compared it also? GEEEEEEEEs After all this has been a long drawn out case.I’m assuming, why don’t you ask them?
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:39 am
2-22-08
Mja Inc Investigations
During our investigation trying to find other Indiana
female child Victims..That could be related to 1980’s
Child Serial Killer David E Penton..Mja came across
this case..
Mja called the Indiana State Police and asked if they
could check this case out and see if it was possible
that Penton could have done this..
On 8-14-06 at 8am I got a call back from the Indiana
State Police saying there were other suspects that
they are convinced that done this crime..So no Penton
couldnt have done it…
Down below is the story that came out that
afternoon..Because of Mja reaching out they started
looking into their suspects again and realised that
one of them were unaccounted for..
Here is a high profile sex-offender and the State of
Indiana doesnt know where he is..Mja was very upset
about this..As of 2-22-08 we still havent heard if
they have located this sex-offender. ..We are very
concerned with what other crimes he has committed
because Indiana didnt keep track of him..
Mja Inc–Agent Mark A Harper
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____
Police Seek Man Who Served Time For ‘84 Child Rape
44-Year-Old Accused Of Probation Violation
POSTED: 1:52 pm EDT August 14, 2006
INDIANAPOLIS — A man who served prison time in
connection with the 1984 gang rape and slaying of an
11-year-old Indianapolis girl is wanted on suspicion
of violating his probation, police said.
Joseph Mark McCormick, 44, who served three years in
prison after pleading guilty in 2003 to raping Peggy
Sue Altes, failed a drug test as part of his probation
in March and cannot be located, police said Monday. A
warrant for his arrest was issued in March in Hancock
County.
McCormick is white and 6 feet tall, weighs 200 pounds
and has brown hair and blue eyes, police said. Police
said anyone who reports his whereabouts to Crime
Stoppers of Central Indiana at 317-262-8477 may be
eligible for a cash reward of up to $1,000.
Police said Altes was abducted from the streets of her
Indianapolis neighborhood, raped by more than one
person and killed in 1984. She was stabbed 17 times
and her throat was cut. Her body was found in a wooded
area in Hancock County that year.
In 2001, McCormick was charged with murder in
connection with Altes’ death, with authorities
claiming that DNA evidence linked him to her. However,
McCormick in 2003 pleaded guilty to raping Altes, and
the murder charge was dropped.
McCormick was sentenced to 20 years in prison with 14
years suspended. He was released this year after
serving three years.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____
In Memory of Peggy Sue Altes
Peggy Sue, 11, disappeared on November 12, 1984 from
her home on the east side of Indianapolis, Indiana.
Her body was found five days later in a field in
Hancock County, Indiana.
She had been raped and stabbed several times. Peggy
Sue’s brother-in-law, Jerry Watkins, was convicted of
her murder in 1986. He had admitted to molesting her
before her murder, but he denied abducting and killing
her.
In 2000, Watkins was freed after DNA testing proved
that semen found on Peggy Sue’s body was not his.
Police subsequently arrested five suspects in the next
four years, and had to let every one of them go. One
of them, Joseph McCormick, admitted molesting Peggy
Sue before her death and was sentenced to six years
for that, but DNA testing proved he was not her
killer.
McCormick lead police to three other men. One was let
go after passing a lie detector test, one pleaded
guilty to conspiracy to commit battery and was
sentenced to six years, and the other was released
after prosecutors admitted they did not have
sufficient evidence to prove he killed Peggy Sue.
They may refile charges against this man if more
evidence is found. He is now being charged with
molesting his nephew.
As of April 2004, Peggy Sue’s murder is unsolved.
Do you think this might be connected to Amy’s case?
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 am
I forgot to say that I copied an pasted from another site.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I see alot that matches with Amy’s case.
1. age is close, she was 11 yrs. old
2. area is east Indiana,close to Ohio
3. she was raped by more than one person
4. she was found in field or woods
5. her throat was cut
So has anyone checked any further with a match in these two cases? Mr.Renner you should really check this out.
February 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I don’t see a connection to Bay Village or Ashland, here. And there is no evidence that suggests more than one person took part in Amy’s murder.
February 23rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
your saying that you did look at all the autopsy report. how do you know what the FBI is holding back? why couldn’t this have been a serial killer? in the case of Krista Harrison they traveled to that rest area on 224 in Ruggles and through away part of her bloody scalp, what were they doing there?
February 24th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Oh, I very much agree that Amy’s killer may be a serial killer. And I think Krista’s case deserves a VERY close look, again. Whoever killed Krista, also killed Tina Harmon and Debbie Smith. All those girls were either kidnapped or found within a few miles of St. Rt. 250. And I don’t think it was Robert Buell, who was executed for Krista’s murder in 2002.
Fibers found on Krista and Tina’s body were compared to those found on Amy last year. They do not match. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the same man did not commit all these crimes. That said, the detectives involved in Amy’s case do not seem to think that the same man killed Amy. I tend to agree with them, but let’s say I’m not 100% convinced.
My new book is a collection of unsolved crime stories from NE Ohio. It’s tentative title is The Serial Killer’s Apprentice, which refers to the rather long final chapter about Krista’s murder.
And to answer your question about the scalp. I think that was probably the location where Krista was first dumped, and the killer got nervous for some reason and decided to move her body from there. There’s a link to my Free Times story about all this on my blog at http://www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com
-James
February 24th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
There is just one little thing wrong with thinking it was this Ross person.The FBI criminalogist stated way back at the begining that “this person had never done this before”, this was a “first time thing for them”. It tells about it in the 10 yr. report.
February 25th, 2008 at 8:42 am
That doesn’t mean it’s true.
February 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
It’s my opinion that you have to much evidence compiled against others to say that it was Ross.I believe it to be fair when you look back at all the agents and so on that worked the case to say they’re not all wrong.The profile that was made never changed to my knowledge, and Ross does not match it.My opinion is your going way out on a limb to even suggest that it may have been Ross. There were other serial killers in that area back then that were never mentioned at all in this case such as Dill and Below why don’t you think it was one of them?
February 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
A couple things. One, the criminal profile of Krista’s killer did change. The original is Ross to a “T”. Read the story. It’s in there.
I’ve thought about Below, but I don’t think the tameframe works out for him and I’ve found nothing to link him to Bay Village or Marshallville. Who is Dill, though?
February 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Dill was another one that was floating around the north west part of Ohio back then, he was even in Lodi.The profile of Amy’s killer has not changed.
February 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
James,
Can you tell me why we can no longer get the A.M.Y. site or the sites from Brent Larkin?
February 27th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Good question. Don’t know.
-James
February 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Do you think you can find out—Brent Larkin was taking over for you wasn’t he?
February 28th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
I wish Brent Larkin would deeply investigate this. He’s a great journalist. But, no, he hasn’t taken over.
I think the AMY sight will be up again soon.
February 28th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Thanks James for responding !!!!
March 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I recently was given a copy of your book about Amy. I was nine when she was abducted and remember it well. Having grown up in Ashland county it was all over the news. I am a mother now and can’t imagine what her family went through. I think you are a wonderful human being for putting so much time an effort into this case. Maybe if there were more people in th world like you our children would be a little safer. I hope for Amy’s sake and yours the killer is found and brought to justice.
March 14th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Wow, not alot of comments lately!
March 14th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I think everybody’s waiting for Renner’s new book to come out.
March 23rd, 2008 at 7:54 am
Happy Easter everybody !!!
March 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Well now,
I don’t want to stop this thread because I believe the person(s) involved are reading this every day!! I’d hate to think, they think they got away with killing this child, they didn’t. It’s just a matter of time till you are picked up, you can’t get to far. A lot of interesting things have come my way in a very short time about you, your not that good, it bothers you very much to see things written here. Chill out, we’re so close to getting you it’s unbelievable. Maybe you should have done as Mr. Renner suggested and turned yourself in. I can honestly say if you don’t all will be lost, for sure. Now you sleep tight! And what ever you do , don’t think about what you done to this little girl, do you see her in your dreams? I think you do. Do you reach for her and she is gone? I think that happens too. Are you just sick about it every time there’s a anniversary of either her abduction or death. I think so.Times running out!!!!!Oh by the way nice car!!!!!!!!tick,tick,tick.
March 26th, 2008 at 7:36 am
WoW
March 26th, 2008 at 9:06 am
You get him!!! Can’t wait!
March 28th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
father or FATHER i lay cold in the ground for there REVENGE and your PROTECTION. can you here me? or the other bodies you have caused to lay cold. hear there cry through the WRAPPING, hear the web of crime from afar, THEY have used the little children the bad OR GOVERMENT the THE EVIL AND HIS HENCHMEN ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AVENAGE ME LET ME GO HOME.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
TICK TICK TICK
March 29th, 2008 at 5:59 am
James, it’s the end of March. Can you give us some updates???
March 29th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Any Time now will do.
March 30th, 2008 at 8:45 am
JUST A REMINDER.
After 10 years, Amy Milhaljevic’s murder remains unsolved. Now, the Bay Village police and the FBI are bringing the full details of the case and a startling new psychological profile of the killer to the public in hopes of catching a killer.
As part of Cleveland Magazine’s 30th anniversary celebration, the editors have chosen 52 of their favorite stories from the magazine’s archives, and wish to share them with you.
A new story will appear every week at Clevelandmagazine.com. It might be controversial, comical, nostalgic or nonplussing. But it will be Cleveland.
Visit the archive to view other articles in the series.
From Cleveland Magazine, October 1998
It started as a brief but chilling flash of news, racing over the wire in terse words, spoken with careful reserve by news broadcaster, passed along in cautious tones from friend to neighbor.
Bay Village Police are seeking a little girl who failed to return home from school late this afternoon.
The words were cold but loaded, like a hand grenade.
Bulletins like these are often false alarms. Countless kids go traipsing off to school and come home just fine, day after day, year after year. A lot of them come home late. Between school and home for a 10-year-old is a world of wonder. She was off somewhere with schoolmates, stopped at a friend’s, went to the store with her brother, came home and fell asleep in the guest room — a few minutes, maybe, an hour or so, and the little mystery is solved, the girl is clasped in the arms of her exasperated but joyful mother and all is well.
Until that moment of relief, the throat-tightening thought that it may be something worse, the worst there is, claws at those who have heard a child is at risk. The first reports provoked no grave alarm. Bay village, after all, is one of the safest places on Earth.
Through late October, there were no murders in Bay Village that year. There were no rapes, no kidnappings or abductions in 1989; only three robberies, two assaults and 12 car thefts in the entire city. There had never been a child homicide in the city’s history. The police are proficient. The citizens are responsible and community-minded. Bay Village is how modem civilization is supposed to be, tranquil and secure.
A follow-up news flash camequickly on the heels of the first.Still no sense of panic, but enoughdetails to provoke a hint of real concern.
Ten-year-old Amy Renee Mihaljevic was reported missing by her mother late this afternoon. Bay Village police aresearching the area surrounding her Lindford Drive home and Bay Square Shopping Center, where she was last seen at approximately 3 p.m., wearing apale green sweatsuit with lavender trim. She is 4-foot-10, 90 pounds, with straight blonde hair and brown eyes.
3:14 p.m.
Amy’s brother, Jason, then 13, had taken the first small step that led to the most intense child search in local history. Jason had called his mother at work to report Amy’s absence when she was only minutes late. Both kids were usually home by 3 p.m. and both called Mom at work soon after just to say, “Hi, we’re home.” Every day. No special reason. There had never beenan incident, no cause for concern; it was just the family way. The pattem was so consistent that Jason sounded the alarm within minutes.
For Amy’s mother, that call was the first raindrop of the violent thunderstorm that would wreak havoc on her family and her life. Today, Margaret McNulty recalls that she was only mildly concerned. “She had mentioned something to me about trying outfor the choral group,” she recalls, “so I told Jason to call back in a little while. I told him not to worry.”
But she did. “It was a feeling,”she says. “A very bad feeling. “After 10 years, that thought is enough to send a ripple of emotion across her face like a chill wind through the room.
3:30 p.m.
Jason called again. “Amy’s still not home.” Even knowing Amy had reason to belate, Margaret was concerned enough to gather her things and prepare to leave her work at Tradin’Times magazine to get home and check on her little girl. But something happened, something not widely known before, something that haunts Margaret to this day.
Amy called.
3:40 p.m.
To her mother’s great relief, Amy called and Margaret sat back down at her desk. Everything was fine. Or was it? She asked how the tryout went and Amy said, “OK. ” She askedhow she was doing and Amy said, “Fine.” Margaret had the clear impression that Amy was calling from home. They talked briefly, Mom and Amy, then bye-bye and see you soon. It was the last time Margaret ever spoke to her onlydaughter.
“That was critical,” says JimTompkins, the lead detective onCase #BV-8900713 from the firstday in 1989 until his retirementthis past January. “It bought himan hour or more.” Precious getaway time for the man authoritiescall the “Unknown Male.”
Expert analysts also believe thiscrucial event reveals importantdetails about him. They are certainhe was standing right there, thathe knew Amy was supposed tocall and told her what to say. “It tells us he was executing a boldplot that included Amy, her familyand the police Bay Village PD headquarters is right across thestreet from that mall, ” says Robert Ressler, a pioneer in criminal psychological profiling for the FBI.” This is an intelligent man, presentable, well-spoken. This is a complicated personal crime.”
Margaret went back to herwork with the inexplicable but nagging feeling that things still weren’t right. “She answered my questions with a word ‘Yes,”OK, ”Fine’ that wasn’t like her,” says Margaret. “She was a little chitter-chatterbox. ” A short time later, for reasons known only to a mother, Margaret left work early and rushed home. She wasn’t in the house half a minute when Jason said, “Mom, she’s still not here.”
4:30 p.m.
Margaret ran back to the car and drove to Bay MiddleSchool. The building was closed, no cars in the lot, no one there, only Amy’s aqua-colored bicycle with the white wicker basket, alone and abandoned at the rack.For Margaret, that riderless bike was an instant and unshakable symbol of doom. She fights thetears while trying to describewhat was, for her, the definingmoment of tragedy. “I knew rightthen it was something terrible … disaster,” she recalls. “I never saidit, but that bike I was sick, I was shaking, I knew something terrible had happened to Amy.”
Margaret drove directly to the Bay Village Police Department,part of the City Hall Building at Wolf and Dover Center roads, and ran inside. Two officers huddled with her right away, sat her down and got her story. They took notes, asked questions. It had been less than an hour since Amy had called. It would have been understandable if the Bay police advised patrolling officers to keep an eye out for her and let it go atthat. In spite of the lack of any evidence of foul play, that’s not what happened. The case officerpicked up on Margaret’s instinct wavelength. “Yes, [officer] Barbara Slepecky made the assessment on the spot,” recalls Farrell Cleary, Bay Village safety director.”It was her call and she immediately classified it as a child abduction. So we went full bore on it right away.”
5:14 p.m.
The first police bulletin provided a full description of Amy to police on duty, quickly relayed to their counterparts in Westlake, Rocky River, Fairview Park and Avon Lake.
6 p.m.
Mark Mihaljevic arrived home from a day on the road as acustomer service representativefor General Motors, unaware of anything amiss until he walked inthe door. Shocked silent at the news, he did the only thing hecould roll up his sleeves and pitch in.
Mihaijevic has a humble but solid presence, like an honest farmer. He’s not tall, but broad shouldered and thickset. He doesn’t waste gestures or expressions. There aren’t many lines on his patient face. He listens mostly; when he speaks, he measures his words.
“They told me she was just … missing. The police were there, and I went all over the house with them from top to bottom.” Friends of the family soon joined him and “… we just wanted to do somethirig,” says Mark. “We searched the ravine, the one that runs through to the lake. We walkedt he whole thing, every inch, calling her name, Amy … Amy.”
7 p.m.
Before the last light leftt he sky, a massive search was on. With a swiftness of purpose that earns a city the right to be called a village, countless volunteers joined authorities to scour the area and network with other friends or neighbors who might have seen Amy.
9 p.m.
The quiet suburban police station had been transformed into a command post, with uniformed and civilian employees flanked by an instant auxiliary of volunteers. Extra flashlights, food and supplies flooded police headquarters. Calls poured in offering more vehicles, boats to scan the lakefront, dogst o search the woods.
At the Milialjevic home, Margaret was on the phone, as she had been for hours, calling everyone she could think of and answering everyone who called on the other line with the same negative mantra. “No, she’s not…. No, we don’t know…. No, nothing.”
The night passed, that awful first night, the darkest night. The odds of successful recovery of an abducted child plummet rapidIy after the first six hours. For the hundreds of police and volunteers who scoured the darkness, every tick of the clock was like a hammer blow. Dawn came without promise: no sign of Amy, not aclue to her whereabouts.
Saturday, Oct. 28, 1989, 7:10 a.m.
Less than 14 hours after police first became aware of Amy’s absence, the Federal Bureau of Investigation was alerted (as kidnapping is a federal offense). The FBI joined in while city and neighboring police, Highway Patrol, Metropark rangers and most of Bay Village continued looking frantically for Amy.
Special Agent Dick Wrenn has led the FBI investigation from the start. He is still the point man today, still intensely committed to solving the crime. Wrenn lives in Bay Village. He has children Amy’s age. He shops at Bay Square.
A neighbor had called early that morning and told him the news. Wrenn and Tompkins began canvassing the neighborhood, speaking to residents. A neighbor of Amy’s family gave the investigators troubling information from his daughter, a close friend of Amy’s. Wrenn understood the implications immediately. It was the bombshell of the case.
The story, confirmed by Jason and other friends of Amy, changed everything. The girl had not been randomly abducted. She had received some phone calls, maybe several, from an unknown male. He knew her phone number and where she lived. He knew where her mother worked and what time she came home. He knew the neighborhood and the local strip mall. He befriended Amy on the phone, gained her blind trust and convinced her to meet him at Bay Square. Amy had leaked the “secret” to a few close friends: He was going to take her for a shopping spree at a bigger mall to select a gift for her mother to celebrate a promotion at work. He hinted at a bonus gift for Amy, just for helping out.
He was bold enough to lure Amy into a preconceived scheme, startling in audacity and bonechilling in intent. He was brazen enough to meet her in broad daylight, in full view of many children and adults, right across the street from the police station. He was cunning enough to pull it off. Whatever he said, however he acted, it was beguiling enough that Amy strolled to his car without concern. This was not some mentally deficient deviate, seized by temptation, committing an impulsive crime. This was a creature who took his time, crafted a plan and savored the details of atrocity.
In many cases like this, there is nothing to go on, not a shred of information beyond the frantic report of a child who vanished.This was an exception: Witnesses had provided a good timeline and a fair description of a suspect seen approaching Amy. Fliers with Amy’s picture were in hundreds of locations before noon. By sundown, the count was in the thousands, spanning hundreds of miles and three states. Family members, neighbors, friends and remotely possible suspects on police lists had been questioned before the day was out, some two and three times. Forensic specialists were on hand, searching forminute clues. FBI profiler experts were called for analysis. Countless Bay residents abandoned all else to help find Amy.
Saturday night, as the people of Bay Village continued to mobilize in large numbers and expand the search, FBI agents were grim. Led by Wrenn and his partner, Special Agent Gary Belluomini, they had more than 60 agents on the case already, but they knew the numbers all too well. “With Amy gone 24 hours, and the setup story with the stranger,” says Wrenn, “we knew if we didn’t find her quick …it was clear we were dealing witha crisis situation.”
Still, no one faltered. No one stopped looking. No one gave up. It became the most intense search for a child in local history, involving every conceivable law enforcement agency and an army of volunteers. Federal, state, county and local law enforcement personnel have logged more than 60,000 official hours and thousands more off the clock. Hundreds of promising tips have been tracked down and dismissed,14,000 people interviewed, 120 potential suspects investigated and questioned intensely, 8,000 leads pursued and abandoned. The story and pictures were featured in major newspapers and on national TV shows like “America’s Most Wanted” and “Unsolved Mysteries.” Two million copies of the Amy poster were distributed, in all 50 states and from Europe to Australia.
The community effort was so vast that someone had to take charge and longtime Bay resident Howard Kimball stepped forward to do just that. He emerged as gentle commander of the volunteer army, manning the communications center on the top floor of City Hall. The contributions of time, food, money, assistance and services from regular citizens who cared enough to get involved cannot be counted.
“I can’t give you any names, because there were so many, and I don’t want to omit anyone,” says Kimball. “A printing company donated all the print work and insisted we never mention their name. The airlines, the TV stations, restaurants you know, we asked for paper, and so much came in one day, we had to move it to the fire station. People were so good, so amazing.” No one was concerned with keeping a tally.Their only goal was the safe return of Amy to her family. “It was devastating, how it turned out, but I’d do it all again in a minute, ” says Kimball. “We all would. ”
The heroic effort ofAmy’s Army ended in a desolate fieldnear Ruggles Township in Ashland County on the dreary gray morning of Feb. 8, 1990. Janet Seabold was jogging alongside a silentstretch of County Road 1181 when she stopped in her tracks at the sight of a small figure clad in apale green sweatsuit laying face down in the weeds. She sprinteda quarter mile to the nearest farm house and banged on the door. Ashland County sheriffs responded to a 9-1-1 call at 7:30a.m. Like every department in the region, they had been on notice for months of the possibility of this worst-case scenario and they knew exactly what to do. They blocked the road, secured thescene and called the FBI.
“We went to the Mihaljevichouse as soon as we had official confirmation,” says Wrenn. “JimTompkins and I, with [Bay VillagePolice] Chief Garreau. and [theRev.] Tom Madden from Bay Presbyterian. It was a horrible thing to have to do. … The media was already there.” The fear that had tormented family, friends and investigators turned to loss. The Unknown Male who took Amy had taken her life.
Cuyahoga County Coroner Elizabeth Balraj determined the dreadful facts, with more details filled in from subsequent examination by FBI scientists. Amy had been deceased for some time. Most likely, the murder had occurred shortly after her abduction, probably a few days or less. She was not killed immediately: Amy had eaten at least one meal after she was taken, maybe more. Her death was brutal but quick. She had been forcefully struck onthe head, then stabbed twice in the neck.
The search for Amy Mihaljevic had ended in tragedy. The search for the murderous Unknown Male was only beginning.
This Oct. 27, it will be a full decade since the crime. In one of the most frustrating cases ever for many involved, no arrests have been made. The questions echo down a 10-year corridor. Who is he? Where is he? Why can’t we find him? Is he is still here, masked as one of us, going to his job, socializing with friends and family? Why did he do it? Why Amy? What else has he done? What else will he do?
Recently, the principal investigators from 10 years ago joined currently assigned agents and officers to discuss the case that they take as hard as if Amy was their own.
Dick Wrenn is there. The FBI agent is still on the case. He has never set it aside. He speaks of it with such intensity, it might as well have happened last week.” This was a crime against children, against family and community, ” he says. “We’re not going to let it go. We’re determined tocatch him.”
Bay Village detective Jim Tompkins recently retired from the force, but not from the case.”You know, I could have seen the whole thing come down if I was looking out my window,” herecalls. “Hardly a day goes by when I don’t think about that. I’d do anything they ask me.”
Special Agent Gary Belluomini, retired after 32 years with the FBI, cannot put the case behind him either. “It was 17-18 hours a day, seven days a week,” he says. “We had tons of leads and some sounded so good, but we had to condition ourselves against that.” The veteran agent admits the case took its toll, mentally and physically. “It was an emotional rollercoaster. It was draining. We wanted this guy so bad.”
Lt. Mark Spaetzel is the lead detective today. He looks too young to have been on the forcein 1989, but he was a patrolman, giving a public service speech to a Bay Middle School class the day Amy was lost. He didn’t realize it until much later, but Amy was in the class. “It’s a very active case,”he affirms. “We still get five or six calls a month.”
Bay Village Mayor Tom Jelepis provides his own office for the meeting. Safety director Farrell Cleary joins the group and seemst o speak for the entire city when he declares, “For 105 days wef ocused, we looked to recover Amy. From that day [that she was found], we started looking for Amy’s killer and we haven’ts topped. And we won’t stop.”
Later, this group is supplemented by a two-man delegation from the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va. Stephen Etter is supervisory special agent for the National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime. Wayne Lord is a supervisory special agent with the Critical Incident Response Group: Child Abduction and Serial Killer Unit. These are the formal names of the fabled FBI “Profiler Units,” now a generation advanced from the criminal behavior analysisg roup made famous in TV shows and films such as ” Silence of the Lambs.” Lord and Etter are part ofthe most sophisticated criminology team in existence, composed of experts in diverse scientific disciplines who collaborate on determining factual and theoretical attributes of unknown violent criminals.
Lord speaks of “predator tendencies” and “territories.” His background in zoology became the basis for his expertise in human predators. His doctorate is in entomology, the scientificstudy of insects. With crime scenes, bodies and other physical evidence, the study of the condition and activity of minute life forms at a microscopic level yields a wealth of information timelines, locations, aberrations.
Etter emphasizes logistics, motives and M.O.’s (modus operandi). With advanced degrees in business, his methodical approach is enhanced by 10 years of intense analysis of the psychology of violent offenders. He follows the subtle trail of “conscious and unconscious choices made” in search of patterns of behavior that help define appearance, demeanor and lifestyle.
Lord and Etter have come to Cleveland specifically to provide the recently completed analysis of the case, rare public disclosure for the FBI in an ongoing homicide investigation. Wrenne xplains, “I’ve never been involved in a debriefing of a reporter to this extent in 27 years. But at this point, we’re all willing to do it because we think it might help.”
These experts tell the whole story, including a summary status of the case: Of the thousands of potential suspects ever to appear on the radar screen, less than two dozen remained priorities after acute investigating. However,i nvestigators continually review a comprehensive list of previously investigated subjects.
Some rumors persist that oneof two men on that list may have been the killer, but investigators are virtually unanimous in the certainty that neither one was involved. Suspect No. 1 was a troubled young man from Fairview Park who joined the Volunteers for Amy early on. He was questioned several times, his story checked and doublechecked. He was found to have serious personal problems, medical and emotional, unrelated to the case. Months after Amy’s disappearance, he consumed a lethal amount of ethanol “dry gas” and died three days later.
One veteran FBI agent briefly involved in the case had questioned this suspect personally and maintained a “gut feeling” that he was hiding something. He later cited the suicide as a possible indication of guilt and named the man publicly as a good candidate for the Unknown Male. All other investigators insist he was not the one.
“After his death, we had access to his home and belongings,” Wrenn recalls, “and there wasn’t a shred of evidence [for] this or any other crime.” Etter adds that “…he simply didn’t have the capacity to commit this type of crime.”
Suspect No. 2 worked at the stable where Amy went horseback riding on weekends. His appearance was vaguely similar tot he known description, and a background check had focused serious attention on him for months. Intense surveillance and exhaustive investigation yielded nothing. “He didn’t do it,” says Wrenn. “I’m as certain as I can be in an uncertain world.”
“Of all the suspects,” says JimTompkins, “20 to 25 were most interesting, but we never had as ense of, ‘Yeah, this is the guy.’” Authorities believe the Unknown Male is still out there, waiting to be caught.
The rest of this story is written for one reader the one who has that last fragment that will break this case and close the Amy Mihaljevic tragedy. All the experts andauthorities are confident that that person is out there, that he or she may well be reading this, and that one conversation with him or her could end it all.
Maybe it’s you.
If it is, you probably have no idea that you hold the key that has been missing for 10 years. You didn’t do anything wrong, you didn’t participate in any crime, you haven’t been part of any cover-up. Maybe you didn’t even know Amy or her family, or anyone who did. Still, you could have that incidental piece of information that investigators know is the Rosetta stone of the Amy Mihaljevic case.
For the first time, FBI and police have agreed to release details kept confidential for a decade. It is typical in a case like this for certain facts to be withheld, kept in reserve to separate the wheat of truth from the chaff of dead-end leads and false confessions. But now, with somuch time passed, investigators believe it may be beneficial to divulge additional data in the hope that one reader could make one remote connection.
First are the objects, the things Amy carried. Never previously disclosed, theya re innocuous and insignificant by themselves, but they could crack this case wide open. Amy had these things with her when she was taken. After all the years of searching, none have ever been found. Some are rare enough to be memorable and unique enough to be clearly identifiable. Maybe they were burned or buried to cover the tracks of the Unknown Male, but it is not unusual for this kind of criminal to make the arrogant error of keeping a memento of his crime, a “trophy” of his success. If the Unknown Male kept one or more of these objects, even for a short time, someone might have noticed.
The most distinctive is a pair of shoes. When her body was found, Amy was dressed exactly as she had been when she disappeared in October, but forensic investigation has confirmed that she was not simply seized and slain. She had eaten again, after she was taken, at least once. The experts are certain that her clothes had been removed, then put back on her body after her death all except her shoes and her earrings.
Why? “Because this was a sex crime,” says Lord. “We know that with virtualcertainty. Amy was a targeted victim, specifically selected by this man with criminal sexual intent, and there are clear patterns of behavior subsequent to a sexcrime like this.”
Lord goes on to describe FBI theories of the missing items. “We see enough cases where the offender keeps items from the victim, sometimes gives them as a gift to someone else.” The shoes were uncommon: black leather ankle boots with vertical rows of silvery studs, bloused at the ankle. The Unknown Male could have had a problem getting themback on her feet, then tossed them in a trash can many miles from the scene. But he may have been too obsessed with the shoes to part with them so quickly.
The earrings are even more likely “souvenir” items. “They are particularly important,” says Etter. “Just the kind of things the offender might give to another female.” They were “tiny blue turquoise silhouettes of a horse’s head,” according to Amy’s mother, “mounted on goldmetallic studs.” Amy’s favorites.
Amy also had her school backpack, a fairly common blue denim design with red piping and black plastic buckles, and a plain, white nylon windbreaker. Neither one is unusual for a fifth grader, but it would be a odd for a grown man with no children to have one in his home or car.
The last item is exceptional. Amy’s dad had given her a sleek, black leather folder with a brass clasp emblazoned with the Buick three-chevron logo and the legend, “Best In Class.” An award item from the GM sales catalog, there are relatively few like it and it is unlikely one would circulate far beyond the realm of Buick dealers or GM sales or service staff.
Did you ever see any of these things where they didn’t belong? Did it ever catch your attention that a grown man had one or more of them for no apparent reason? Did anyone ever mention them or show them to you?
The last piece of new information is the revised profile of the Unknown Male, provided by the best criminal analysts working today and based on all available information from the case itself and years of comprehensive data compiled, computerized and cross-referenced at the nation’s most advanced center for the study of criminology.
Presented here, for the first time, is the closest description of the Unknown Male what he looks like, what he does, how he behaves, where he lives. Obviously, because his identity remains unknown, these are theories, not facts, but if recent history is any indication, when he is finally caught, he will be remarkably close to much of the description provided by FBI experts. One crucial aspect of the revised “profile” relates to the ubiquitous poster of the suspect. Remember the undistinguished drawing of the slightly built man, unremarkable in appearance? Forget it. At least for now, set it aside. It could be that the Poster Man is not an accurate portrayal of the Unknown Male. The description provided by witnesses was based on fleeting glimpses of a man seen approaching Amy, but not in actual contact with her. There was no reason to scrutinize him and nothing extraordinary about his actions or appearance. Wrenn emphasizes that “people should not hesitate to contact us if they have some information, but the man doesn’t look like the drawing I can’t say that strongly enough.”
The rest is a behavioral composite based on 10 years of available information. The offender is a white male. At the time of the crime, he was in his mid- to late 30s, older than average for a first-time child aggressor. He is not remarkable in appearance, within average ranges of height, weight and build. He may look presentable, but not accomplished or professional. “He is socially marginalized, ” according to Etter. “Not in the mainstream, not a run-of-the-mill citizen.”
“He won’t fit in with his peers very well, especially women,” adds Lord, “and the people who know him will describe him as ‘odd’ or ‘difficult.’ It’s likely that he was living alone, with a single roommate, or maybe still at his parents’ house.” It is most unlikely he was in a successful marriage, with a normal home and family life.
One of the most intriguing aspects of the report is that the killer was most likely to have undergone some sort of dramatic change in his behavior, personality or appearance in the weeks preceding the crime. He developed a sudden compulsive or obsessive disorder, experienced a personal catastrophe or an emotional setback. “He may have started drinking heavily, or stopped drinking suddenly,” says Wrenn. “He could have started into hard drugs or quit a drug habit.” There was a drastic change in his life, maybe a sudden fascination with a cult or radical religious group. Something happened to this man in the fall of 1989, something that would have been noticeable to close friends or relatives.” There was a pre-event stressor,” says Lord, “something that took him from fantasy to action.”
The stress in his life may have been reflected in a dramatic change in his physical appearance. He let his hair grow long or cut it very short. His health suffered. His weight fluctuated. There were changes in his appearance or lifestyle.
In addition, one important logistical aspect should be noted. This man was not passing through. Contrary to the family’s trusting conviction that no one known to any of them was involved, authorities are confident that the Unknown Male has “… reason to know this area,” according to Etter; “A resident, a contract worker or delivery person familiar with Bay Square.” Lord cites the need for such a predator to select a “hunting ground where he can … move comfortably through the tall grass.”
Lord explains that the Ashland County location is just as important. “This was not random,” he says. “When you are disposing of something thatc ould ruin your entire life, you’re going to be careful.” The Unknown Male knew County Road 1181. He had been on that lonely stretch of asphalt before. He knew he could quickly place Amy’s body just over a shallow ridge a few yards from the pavement and expect it would go undiscovered for weeks or months. Wrenn confirms the conclusion: “Yes, we think he was familiar with Bay Village and familiar with the area in Ashland.”
The experts go another step. “We believe he had knowledge of the family,” says Etter, “personal knowledge in considerable detail.”
The most disturbing part of the report concerns his behavior since the crime. Because there has not been a similar crime reported at least nothing like the complicated telephone plot to lure Amy to a deadly rendezvous the general perception is that, to the best of the investigators’ knowledge, the Unknown Male has never claimed another victim.
“We don’t know that he hasn’t done this again,” says Etter. “He may have left the area and done something far away, orhe may have changed his M.O.” Etter goes on to explain the difference between an M.O. and the signature of a criminal. “An M.O. is just what works,and it can vary,” he notes. “The signature aspects of a crime do not vary they are fundamental.” Because of the single known crime and limited evidence, there is no known signature in Amy’s case. The unique M.O. the phone-call setup may have evolved to a different tactic.
The best hope experts cite for new information is from past victims, and they believe there may have been some who have never spoken up. “If you look at the statistics,” says Etter, “it is likely this person had criminal sexual contact with other female children and some of those acts may not yet have been reported.”
“Many women are hesitant to report sexual assaults for a variety of reasons,” adds Lord. “It could well be that this offender made other attempts that did not end in death.” Information from a past victim would be of paramount interest to investigators.
“You may have good recall of what he looked like, his vehicle, where he went things that deceased victims cannot tell us,” says Lord. He adds that, through forensic study, “… Amy tried to tell us alot. Now someone else has to help, add just a little more. That’s what we need.” Etter provides a startling statistic: “In 70 percent of cases, there are unknowing witnesses that have valuable information they never thought to bring to light.”
Is it you? Are you that unknowing witness?
It has been 10 years now, and life goes on. Jason Mihaljevic, Amy’s brother, recently graduated from Kent State University. He was married this past June and plans a career helping children in rural areas.
Mark and Margaret Mihaljevic divorced less than two years after Amy’s death. “Yes, it played a part,” says Margaret. “It wasn’t the only thing, but itmade…” Her voice trails off and shelooks away. “It was hard on us both. We’re friends. It’s all right.” Mark nods, unspeaking, and squeezes her arm. In a large conference room with a dozen chairs, they choose to sit side by side, pulling their chairs close. Mark remarried years later. Margaret has remained single.
Amy is buried near Mark’s parents atthe Mihaljevic family plot in Milwaukee.There is a simple memorial on the grounds at Bay Village City Hall, purchased through a fundraiser led by longtime local radio host Bill Randle as a tribute to the little girl who meant so much to so many. “I visit it often,” says Margaret. “To this day, people still leave flowers and notes and stuffed animals. She loved her stuffed animals.”
Is there any saving grace? Did anything good come of this tragedy? For the only time, Mark Mihaljevic speaks at some length. “Yes. It brought a whole community together. … You know, before noon on Saturday it hadn’t been a day yet the Buick dealers I work with put up a big reward,” he says. “Everyone the sense of community was so massive, the food, the money, the people.” He has to stop for a moment. “It was overwhelming.”
Margaret pats him on the hand, then adds a thought of her own. “A lot more parents became aware of how fragile their children are,” she says. “You think you five in some suburban bubble, but evil has a way of happening. There are cruel people out there. Harsh people.
“It still hurts, it’s very painful, but I’m not the only one hurting. It affected so many…. Do you know there were people, volunteers, who had never met Amy, but they were so involved that, after, they needed counseling, too?
“Why Amy? Why us? Why?” she asks of no one. “There isn’t any answer. And I’ve come to terms with the fact that there is no answer. … All I would ask is if anyone has an inkling or suspicion, a little tiny doubt please let the authorities know. It’s not for punishment. it’s that this man is still out there, a terrible risk to children…. Please come forward. One little piece of information the police andthe FBI have a lot of threads, they just need one thing to tie them all together.”
Maybe you know something. Maybe you saw something one of the items pictured here. Maybe you heard something.There is a substantial reward offered, yes $10,000 from the FBI but there’s much more to be claimed by the good citizen who steps forward: closure for a family, solace to a community, relief to parents, resolution for investigators, peace for Amy. “Just one thing,” says Amy’s mother.
Maybe you have it. If you think you do, call the FBI at (216) 522-1400 or the Bay Village police at (440) 871-1234 and put this story to an end.
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March 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
THE F.B.I.? THE WITNESS PROTECTION, IS TO PROTECT THE WITNESS OF A CRIME.. NOT COVER ANOTHER, SO I HEAR!!! THE POLICE? CAN’T DO ANYTHING IF THE GOVERMRNT IS HIDING THERE INFORMENT IN A SECERT PROGRAM. THE KILLERS HAVE MORE THAN AMY’S MURDER HERE… EVEN IT IS FROM A DIFFERENT CRIME. IT IS ALL IN THE PICTURE IF YOU PUT ALL YOUR HEADS TOGETHER
ONLY 3 PEOPLE OF INTEREST
GOVERMENT. COVER UP OF/FOR PROTECTION
CHILD MOVIES
ORGINIZED CRIME
KILLING GONE BAD
March 31st, 2008 at 7:24 am
It’s about time someone said what’s going on. I would like to know just who you have in mind for persons of interest. I’d like to check them out, to see if there is a match on any of this that connects to Amy.
April 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Just so everyone knows, that article above was written by Tom Kelly in 2000. If you’re going to cut and paste someone’s work, make sure you give them credit.
Also, there are some minor mistakes throughout the article, but nothing to get bent out of shape about.
-James Renner
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:00 am
Sorry for the oversight.I thought his name did appear.Indeed it was written by Thomas Kelly.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Mr. Renner:
Did you mean you would get back to this case this year?
It doesn’t appear that you are still gun-ho on it as you were when you first started!!
Does this mean that you really can’t go any further on this case?
I just don’t understand how all these things that happened to that child can be pushed under the rug.
You said that the A.M.Y. site would be back up and running again and it’s not.
You said Brent Larkin was doing something on this case too, he did have some things posted and now that’s been removed.
What gives???
Is this case a great big conspiracy??
Is the government hiding who the killer is?
If so, what would be their reasoning for that?
I’d like to know just what justifies the killing of a child in this United States?
I’ve read through a lot of if not all the things posted on different sites about this case to include the ten year report.I’ve heard tales of this case both far and near and I’ve come to this conclusion,
Amy was taken by more than one person than the person that killed her,
Amy knew only one of them and the one she knew was Al Matlock, as he was the closest to where she lived.
Al Matlock does have a warrent for him, in Ashland Co.
Ashland Co. hasn’t bothered to inforce it because It can’t be justified or he just stood by while the other person gained her trust to get her into his vehicle.
There are reports of this child being in porn videos, people have made the claim of seeing it.
The ten year report says there is just one little thing that could bring this altogether. That report sounds like it is talking to a person directly. Do you suppose that what they are reffering to is another female that was also forced into doing a video and lived that could tell the names of the men involved?
Why hasn’t her father said more or done more about his daughters kidnapping and murder? I know if Amy were my child I wouldn’t stop till I found all the answers. The comments he made are a bit strange to say the least,Why?
I don’t believe Amy was his daughter,make him prove that she was.
In your book there is just one chapter that would even give a person the thought of Amy belonging to another person. That story does fit with all that’s been said.
If the female that was forced in the video is reading this I’m truley sorry that you have been going through this for all these years.You are the only person that can put Amy to rest. Please tell someone, someone you trust. God will always be on your side.
This is just my opinion, what’s yours?
April 12th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Thank you so much for saying all of this! I have been thinking the same things. I know people are scared but COME ON!!! Someone knows exactly who’s involved and they are not speaking up!!! Like, the storekeeper, you said nice car! What kind of car? Who are you talking about? You need to e-mail James and tell him if you haven’t already. Something has got to give here and everyone who knows who did it needs to come together and stand up! I don’t care if the Govt. or whoever is covering this up it’s B-Shit! They made their bed and now they should lay in it!!!
April 13th, 2008 at 11:09 am
There’s much ,much more to this case if you put all these things in there too.Stories of police, cult and drugs. So now what do you have? None of this seems to fit with this child not even the videos. You got a house on county road 500, a field on 500, FBI, helicoptors, evidence, not to mention mafia,drug king pins,and government officals.You have cars,vans, houses, businesses,witness protection and cover-ups. Just what the hell is going on in your small burgs to justify all this? Let’s not forget Amy’s special school, the horse farm,and the fact that she was a very active little girl.What was the real reason that there was two phones in that house where she lived? Why was it impairative that they call their mother as soon as they came home, why didn’t they just call their father? What could it have been that the mother said to the police when she first went to the station? What made them go full bore on this case only after a few short hours of not recieving that phone call to let her know Amy was safe at home? Back years ago when this happened they didn’t just jump up and go full bore as they say, on this missing child, they waited awhile first just to see if maybe Amy was just out playing with her friends. That did not happen. WHY? How is it that fire dept. personel know what type of blood was in that house? Wasn’t it their job to put out fires? How can they even claim that it was only animal blood when statements have already been made that people were in that house partying as it were and cutting themselves and flinging the blood everywhere. Where did their blood go? And cleaning deer UPSTAIRS! Please give us some credit for knowing that this is NOT done,EVER!What about that handyman/cabanna boy from Bay? was it true that he had something to do with this? I highly doubt it.I imagine he was only every bored housewife in Bays dream of love after so many yrs. married to a boring partner, they all lusted after him.So if he turned them down, what a wonderful way of getting back at him by turning him in as the person who took Amy!!Think people,that poor man is innocent.It was said that the phone call to Amy’s mother was not long distance, so where did it come from? Looks to me like that house behind where she lived that was talked about. And it was also said that Al Matlock was at that very house!2+2 does = 4.What ever happened to the girl that crawled across hyw 250 to the hospital? Where is she now and what does she know? who else was in that van,what was done to her? Why don’t we know? Why did officals out rite lie to Renner about this case? The answer is in the question.Why did the coronor not want to release that autopsy report? And when they did why give Mr. Renner so little time to look it over? Why do the people in Bay believe Amy was killed in that town? Where was all the blood? How long was Amy dead? Was her poor little body in that field all that time? I think not! How could she have been in that field and not been eaten by wild animals? Was she covered? I doubt it too, did any of you watching those videos on youtube see anything around her that might have covered her? I certainly didn’t, covered with snow maybe.Still in all snow or not animals would have been there.What about her faded clothes, was it from the sun or was it from bleach? As you can see I’ve learned to question everything.Now folks, you put it together and let’s hear what you come up with! As always this is just my opinion
April 14th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Amy like to ride horses…correct, Do we know if she traveled to shows? you know the kind you ride in and get trophies for the best in show or the fastest, or whetever? Years ago there were competitions like that in NOVA on township road 462.( anyone remember them) I belive the competitions were held at the Long’s residence, I dont know what happened to the people who used to live there and put on the shows, but there are at least 3 newer homes bulit there on that properity since I was a kid. But anyway with horse shows there in NOVA would it be a possibility that Amy might have been brought to those by her mom or dad? Maybe that would tie her mom & Amy to the Nova Area too. JUST A THOUGHT.
I would have to check the time line to see if there were shows still going on the year or years prior to her death. I cant remember the last year they had horse shows or competitions there.
April 14th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
That would be something to check out, I’d never heard of any shows there. I think Mr. Renner would be the one to answer whether or not she came to this area for something like that.Or at least he should be able to find out.
About that new car………
look around you, how many people do you know that are in that area and are questionable people…..
you just might see it………….
April 17th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Did you see it yet?
It won’t be long now till he is arested!!! Unless of course he takes his own life, then everyone will know for sure it was him after all!!!
I’ve been watching him for a long time now and he never noticed me! If by chance he does do something that stupid I’ll make sure the whole world knows he was the guilty party! They’ll be no more cover-ups from any direction! It’s kinda like she has a curse on him!
Won’t he be surprised when they show up at his door!!
Tic! Tic! Tic!
April 18th, 2008 at 6:33 am
Is today your day?
tic! tic! tic!
April 19th, 2008 at 6:06 am
No unfortunately I haven’t seen it yet. I hope today is his day!!! Man, I don’t know how he’s living with himself. I think I’d drive myself nuts being afraid to answer the door or even go to work because of the embarassment he’s going to go through. Poor guy, maybe he should just turn himself in.(by the way, Poor guy is NOT meant to feel sorry for him in ANY shape or form!)
April 19th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Car, Truck, Suv, Mini Van ?
April 20th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Keep your eyes open , you’ll see it, and you would have never thought…….
tic! tic! tic!
April 21st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Why can’t u say what type of vehicle? Have u been threatened, too? I feel anyone who knows anything needs to speak up about it, but I understand if u feel you are in danger. TIC, TIC, TIC!
April 21st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
if you say what kind of vehicle then you single a person out, but by saying that that person has a new vehicle that could be anyone, but my question… is it new (07-08) or just new to that person? (used) do you know if it was bought from a car dealer? a private party? or off a friend (possibly a co-worker)relative? ( possibly a co- worker also) hummmm all good questios I am awaiting an answere, and then I will barf so what do you say pissed? can you tell how it was bought, can you tell if its new or just new for the buyer? and… are we still in Ashland county with the new vehicle? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG AGO IT WAS BOUGHT? (really wanna barf now) and can we at least have a lil hint as to who makes the vehicle? ford, gm, jeep, vovlo, ect… just a hint…oh!, oh!, I know can you tell us what color it is? how about how old is the owner of this new vehicle?
Come on PISSED gimmie something.
I am ready to open this can of worms.
oooo my stomach hurts!!!
April 22nd, 2008 at 8:30 am
I’ve never seen this PERSON with this VEHICLE until RESENTLY.
I also know he has a FEMALE COMPANION……….
They hide in PLAIN SITE…………….
TIC! TIC! TIC!
April 23rd, 2008 at 6:51 am
Mr. Renner has posted to his site!
tic! tic! tic!
April 24th, 2008 at 9:37 am
It sounds to me like Mr. Renner still doesn’t have a clue!
What a shame, cause I do!!
TIC ! TIC ! TIC !
April 24th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
ok then you need to tell someone I get the feeling you might be the only one of a hand full that do know. what would you need to spill the beans, a name change? a new place to live, plastic surgery? those are all the same reasons no one else is telling too! people are scared that they will be killed or looked down upon because they told a secret, but the secret is about a murder, the murder that we all have been despartly looking for the answer for so long. I dont blame you, I would be scared that I would be just like Amy, Dead, and a whole big unsolved crime would be all over again. I wish there was an easy way to do it and not be the next one to come up missing. or stalked, or threatned. I wish I could help. for now I wait, I do belive you. All my heart belives you, And I do belive it will be soon. to live with the knowledge of all this would drive me to pieces. God Bless You!
April 25th, 2008 at 9:32 am
IF you truely know who it is. . .how can you NOT tell someone?? YOU could be the person that keeps this from happening to someone else’s innocent child!! I could NOT live with myself if I knew and didn’t tell someone, I would be worried to dealth that another child and family would go through what that poor child went through. YOU HAVE TO TELL SOMEONE!!!!!
April 25th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Because I don’t wish to blow the case I can not and will not say what the person(s)name is or the kind of vehichle they have,or where they live.I do know they are driving a new vehicle. I know the authorities are working on this feverishly everyday now and we will hear something soon.So chill out folks it will happen.I know they are shaking in there shoes!!!
TIC ! TIC ! TIC !
April 26th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I understand. Thank you
April 28th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I just hope and PRAY another child doesn’t become the victim of this MONSTER before someone decides to tell what they already know. I would not personally be able to sleep at night knowing that this monster is out there, and could very well be KILLING another child while I slept!
April 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Your lack of understanding what is already taking place leaves a lot to be desired! Re-read what has been said and you might get the drift of the situation.I’m not trying to be crule but keep-up would ya!Geeeeeeeeeesh
TIC! TIC! TIC!
Soon we’ll hear TOC!
April 29th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Calm down. No one is really looking into this weird rumor. I don’t believe it’s anyone CURRENTLY living in the Ashland area. There’s nothing to support that and the last thing we should be doing here is scaring people, or diverting attention to suspects who need to be looked at.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Do you think that maybe you don’t know everthing that’s going on ????
Yes something is happening right behind your back!!!
Keep telling people that we need to look into others that have no merit in this case and it will go on forever.
It’s a known fact that people you assocate with have out rite lied to you so hang loose here and just see what happens!!!
Get a grip!!!
Your not the be all end all in this case!!!You have incouraged people to wait and watch for your new findings and what did you do, you told us to wait some more, in the mean time things were going on you had no idea of and still don’t.
TIC! TIC! TIC!
April 29th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Right.
April 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
ouch , is that Sarcasm in that last remark? or was that in agreement. I dont want anyone at anyones throat, but I am here to say, James there is a possibility you will not be the hero in all this, you dont know everything…I dont know everything, only 1 person does! But I do belive there is a lot brewing behind your back, and its also behind ours too! We all know something, or would hope that we would or wouldnt, but both ways I feel deeply compelled to say I am beliving in someone else on this one. you never really wanted to look at Ashland county, not to say our killer is from Aslhand, but you just have so much doubt about it. Not that I want to see it be someone from Ashland County. But a lot of things have swayed your thinking of alot of theorys we have come up with. why are you againts a lot of people? do you want to be the only one to have the answeres in this case. I dont care who solves it first as long as the baby angel we all know as Amy can rest in peace. please we need to work together. and for Amys sake please look into what others are saying. not everyone is right all the time and no one is trying to steal anyones thunder.
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
OnePistAmerican
if we go back to Wednesday, February 28, 2007 on James Renner site (archives) and re read the “reading” we will be seeing alot of these things as fact from the reading? I am not asking what things Just asking if any of our answers are there?
April 30th, 2008 at 7:40 am
I don’t care who solves it. But I do want it solved by someone. And the best way to do that is to not waste time on bogus suspects.
If you have someone you like for it, give us some evidence. Explain to us how they are familiar with Bay Village or how they happened to track down the phone numbers for the other girls in North Olmsted. That’s the key to the case, by the way. If you find out who knew all those girls, you’ll have your man.
April 30th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
freakedoutchic:
I’m sure we will see a lot of different things from here and there that are all wrapped up in this case.
April 30th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
James is Ross and the man that called the girls the same person in your opinon?
April 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Mr. Renner:
Would you please tell all of us just how you came to think that the phone calls made to those girls are connected to Amy?
Explain also how it is that you think a white van was involved when Amy was not seen getting into any vehicle?
Did you see the autopsy reports on the other girls,and if so,did they match Amy’s in anyway?
Things just don’t jive as I see it.
Isn’t it true that the calls to those girls ended up talking about adult situations?
I can’t see someone talking to Amy like that then turn around and talk to her about going with them to buy a gift for her mother. Does anyone else see the problem with this line of thought?
This van that was talked about, wasn’t it already said that it was a friend of the family that knew Amy. Wasn’t it also said that she didn’t know they were looking for a van at the time Amy went missing?
There have been several different things talked about on your site as well as this one that does in fact connect Bay with Ashland.
Now Sr.show me bogus!
Right?
May 1st, 2008 at 7:58 am
I think Ross deserves to be in the top 25, but not necessarily on the “short list”. I can find nothing that places Ross in Bay Village. But I think he should be investigated in relation to Krista Harrison, for sure.
May 1st, 2008 at 9:00 am
I’d just like to say that there had to be a crime scene,if it was in Bay, then where was it?
It’s already a known fact that there was a possible crime scene in Ashland County whether you want to believe it or not a place did in fact exsist.How else can you account for the FBI being there and taking things from that house? You yourself posted pictures that showed that house on your site.Those pictures showed blood a lot of blood. No it wasn’t from a deer! Not all of it at least.How many times do men clean deer upstairs?Explain to all of us how it came to be that the house was burnt to the ground and that the fire dept. could be able to call and tell you many years after the fact that it was animal blood in there.Why did the FBI land a helicopter in the yard of that house and cut the walls and parts of the floors out and take them with them? What made the FBI connect that house with Amy? They did, or they wouldn’t have done what they did.Why would you be looking in a 5 mile radius of where they found the body unless you thought it happened in Ashland County and that the killer was still in that area? Why is it that so many people think that there was police involvement in this crime unless they also know more that they are affraid to tell. What about Matlock? Where is he now? It was said that he was in fact at a house just behind where Amy lived. Why hasn’t he been questioned? Or has he? Tell us all the answers to these questions then we might think your on the trail of a killer.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:54 am
TIC ! TIC ! TIC !
May 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I have not watched tv in a very long time but, in the last few days I leave it on even at night. I am waiting for a breaking news report. I belive we will be getting one.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I’m sure we will. It’s just a matter of time now.
TIC ! TIC ! TIC !
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Mr. Renner:
Just a reminder, you said this.Seemingly you knew who it was from your article.
Several women have contacted us claiming they also spoke with the man who abducted Amy. In the weeks leading up to Amy’s kidnapping, they received phone calls — like the ones Amy received — from a man who said he worked with their mothers and suggested the girls go with him to pick out presents for them. These women were 10 or 11 years old in 1989 and lived in North Olmsted at the time. A connection between these girls and Amy was discovered by one of the women when she read the book. That information has been passed along to Spaetzel and his counterpart at the FBI. — James Renner
Taken from a published article Mr. Renner wrote.
Now can you see why I say , the person is from Ashland, you ignore all the facts.Your findings just don’t jive. We are still waiting for your answers to the questions already posted.Talk to us Mr. Renner, explain away all those questions.
May 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I believe it was posted on youtube, that Det. Spaetzel doesn’t think that the phone calls made to the North Olmstead girls came from the same man that called Amy.
May 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Hey OnePistAmerican,April 17,
“they’ll be no more cover-ups from any direction!”
what do you think you are doing? just spit out the name for crying out loud,or go write a book and sell it.
May 3rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
like I stated before, I will not for any reason name the person due to fact I want to see justice done! I will not disrupt what the authorites are in fact working on.What are you getting so upset about, I’m just clarifying what Mr. Renner is saying.If I’m wrong in my findings I’m sure Mr. Renner will let me know. I’m not here to de-bunk him, I just want streight answers.Nameing the person here will only mess up the case. I’ll wait.
May 4th, 2008 at 7:34 am
A couple answers to your recent questions:
I don’t believe that Amy was killed in that house. (The pictures are still on my blog, just search the archives). But…I did recently talk to someone involved in the initial investigation. And, I stand corrected on one point-there was, apparently, a small satanic cult operating in the area in 1989. I was quite surprised to hear this. They believe the house is connected to the cult, and are interested in it for that reason. Several law enforcement officials have confirmed that the blood was animal.
Also, I think if you review that info from Spaetzel concerning the girls from N.O., you’ll see that he believes some of the girls probably were called by some other creep, but a few may have been called by Amy’s killer. The FBI strongly believes that this is the case. I am nearly convinced of it, myself.
The man that was connected to these girls is mentioned is on the short list, but I won’t use his name at this time, because he remains uncharged. He was a middle school math teacher and lived in Rocky River.
May 4th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I am so pleased Mr. Renner that you have finally gotten some correct answers. In 1992 the FBI put out a report–Satanic Ritual Abuse by Kenneth V. Lanning,Supervisory Special Agent Behavioral Science Unit, National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime.If the FBI was talking about it in 1992 surely they knew about it in 1989. I’m not a bit surprised that this was happening in that area. One of the questions I still have is: if that house was used for cult activity then why was the FBI looking in a four mile radius of where Amy was found, what were they looking for? That house is in that radius, and why did they do a grid search of that field? Again what were they looking for, it seems a bit much. What was their connection between that house and Amy? I don’t believe that the phone calls made were all from the same person, I do believe that they were after just Amy, and the other girls had nothing to do with it.Here’s how I got there, a sexual phone peditor will only act out by being stimulated on the phone from talking to a child, when this man acted on the call he was already planning to take Amy and do what couldn’t be done over the phone. I think that it was two seperate things going on. I’m not trying to be difficult here but if you dig a little deeper your going to find that the blood was human and the names of the people involved going in and out of that house. They were seen with binoculars.
May 5th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Finally!! I also know of someone who was with a person {people} that cut themselves and flung the blood all over the walls in some kind of ritual.I didnt know it was called “blood letting”. I saw a picture of the blood going up the stairway.The picture was blown up. The words written in the blood were Amy Mihaljevic. Any answers James? A hoax or what? Think maybe the blood in the house made them suspicious after Amys body was found?They checked it out- found out it was All deer blood and gave up on that idea? Also if Matlock said to anyone that he killed Amy, why wasnt he brought in for questioning to rule him out?
May 5th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I did hear that there are “kids” who admit to cutting themselves and “flinging” their own blood on the walls. Maybe satanic maybe just stupid kids doing stupid things. . .but they did say they had flung there own HUMAN blood on the walls of that “party house”, so how do you explain NOT finding anything but deer blood in there? It just simply does NOT make any sence what so ever.
I personally think we are just not being told everything and that perhaps Mr. Renner is not being told everything either. Don’t get me wrong I do not want Mr. Renner to think that i am disrepecting him at all I am not, I am thankful that someone brought this back into the public eye. Bringing some attention to this poor child!
I hope Mr. Renner does help in finding this monster that killed this poor child, thank you for trying to do something to help bring justice to them!!
May 6th, 2008 at 5:19 am
I think this is great! We are finally getting to talk about where Amy was killed. Here’s the thing, I had heard that the house that sat in the woods where co. rd 500 crosses 511 was where this happened! The house isn’t there anymore. I do know that a man was found dead in that house years ago. It’s just across from the Bigham property.I overheard a grapevine conversation of an offical trying to tell someone of this cult thing to another offical just after this happened. Maybe he didn’t know what he was talking about, and then maybe he did. Anyway you look at it that kid was killed by people that were connected with cult activity whether they done a sacrfice with her or not I’m not sure cause they saw I was watching and stopped talking, I pretended that I didn’t hear a thing!Has anyone else heard this? Why hasn’t anybody said anything about all the other cult things that go on in Ashland or dead people that are found hanging from trees and bridges or all the animals that have been discovered here and there? What’s your thoughts on this James?
May 6th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Mr Renner:
I have a question about your book, on pgs.65/66 you were talking to Captain Roger Martin and had asked him if he had any hunch as to why Amy was killed. His reply to you was, a vendetta would fit the profile too. Someone killing her to get back at dad.
my question is: why would he think that Amy’s dad would do or say anything wrong to a person when his job was to take care of anything bad that happened with a customer, as in customer satisfaction. Making sure the company he worked for didn’t get a bad name?
Does he know more than he’s telling? Amy’s dad doesn’t fit that kinda profile, unless Mark wasn’t Amy’s real father and Martin knew that.
I’ve read your book cover to cover many many times and I just keep coming back to these strange questions. I thought too that maybe, just maybe if Mark wasn’t Amy’s real father that the Stokes woman was right when she said that she saw Margaret at that house. And the only way Martin could say what he did was because he knew that the real father was in the witness protection program and that the real father lived in the Ashland Co. area. That would also be the only reason that this case has been drug out so long. It was said from the begining that “THEY” already knew who killed Amy,Martin has said why, we know where and possibly how. Will you comment on these things please?
May 6th, 2008 at 8:20 am
I want to suggest we move away from questions about Amy’s parents. Mark is certainly her biological father. I’ve sat next to him on several occasions. There’s a strong family resemblance. (Amy looks more like the Mihaljevics, in my opinion, than the McNulty’s). And he certainly loves her like his daughter. That’s just a myth that has popped up over the years.
Roger Martin is suspicious, and rightfully so. For one reason or other, the FBI and Bay Village PD didn’t like to share much info with Ashland Sheriffs deputies. So, because of limited info, they drew their own conclusions.
Regarding the blood in the house on 500, I don’t agree that it says “amy” in blood on the walls. I think it was a splatter that might look like “amy” if you want it to. It’s weird. No doubt. And even if it’s animal blood, what sort of person would do something like that? I’m not discounting the importance of this house. The investigators are always interested in any info that has to do with that house and who might have been using abandoned buildings in the Ashland area back then.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I can’t say that I believe it’s a myth, as you should already know Mark I’m certain would always love that child as she was a part of Margaret.He was the one that helped raise her and he did so as a father. Can you explain the childs phone? I don’t buy the deal that it was a work phone as back then work lasted from daylight till dark most times and the children would I assume be in bed after 9:00 so there would be no need for the extra phone. I still think it was so Amy’s real father could call and talk to her on the phone.I also feel that this is where the secret word came into play. This too leads me to believe that the real father was living in the Ashland Co. area and that is why Margaret was seen there at least two years prior to Amy going missing. Your thoughts on this?
Again this is my opinion.
May 6th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I think it’s bunk and a waste of time.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
You are exactly what is wrong with this case. It is a tragedy about a beautiful girl who deserved to live out her life. It is about a mother and a father and a brother, all good people. Not the crap written since 2006 that I just tried to comprehend. And James Renner is the only person to be respected here. Not only has he written a genius read but he cares enough to keep this case alive. Questioning his motives is like burying Amy twice. Get on your knees and pray hard so that the one and only can be brought out into the sunshine and murdered himself.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
it’s a good thing your opinion is just that, your opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you’ve showed everyone here you don’t know a thing because if you did you would know that there are several people here that think James is wrong on different levels. This does include his book. It’s people like you who sing this sad song to the tune of poor little me! We all know it was an awful thing that happened to that whole family, but things do happen, that’s life.So get over yourself and stop acting like no one else here has a brain in their head.you should get down on your knees and pray for forgiveness for passing judgement on people you don’t even know.We are not here to attack James or anyone else, this is a debate,we all have an opinion,now we know yours.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Mr Renner:
you should really keep an open mind with this bunk stuff, you might just be surprised again.
It’s happened to you before.
I have a question,
can you put that picture on the net so we can see for ourselves what it looks like?
In your book pg. 191 you told a story of a woman that let some guy stay at her house, she had two daughters and a cat. they went away and when they came back they found the cat hanging on the top part of the bed and the man pleasured himself.
My question is, did hanging the cat have a cult meaning and was that the reason Det. Spaetzel went to their home?
Can you tell us what the miner mistakes were in the ten year report?
Is one of them the discription of the killer being fastenated with a cult or a radical religious group?
Just what was the reason the FBI connected Amy to that house?
After finding the Ashland Co. sheriff’s office might be shady,do you think that the coroners office is too?
May 6th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
What were all the reasons you had that brought you to the point of believeing that Mr. Harvey was the culprit in this case?
Do you know what Amy’s mother said to the police when she reported Amy first missing,I’ve always wondered because the stories told said the officers huddled together then decided what to do. Why did they have to decide anything? Or was I misinformed? Several stories going around back then stated that it had something to do withwith the father, I don’t see it, but what’s your opinion
May 7th, 2008 at 6:20 am
I apologize for passing judgement, let me rephrase what I stated earlier.
dantheman, You are exactly what is wrong with this case. It is a tragedy about a beautiful girl who deserved to live out her life. It is about a mother and a father and a brother, all good people. Not the crap written since 2006 that I just tried to comprehend. And James Renner is the only person to be respected here. Not only has he written a genius read but he cares enough to keep this case alive. Questioning his motives is like burying Amy twice. Get on your knees and pray hard so that the one and only can be brought out into the sunshine and murdered himself.
May 7th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Hope:
you really need to think everything you said over!
Why in the world would anyone say that was a genius read, it’s a copy cat style!You must not read much.To wish another person murdered is just wrong, where’s your train of thought on that statement? None of us here including you have a clue as to what happened to that child, it may have been an accident that snowballed in
to something else that killed her in the first place.I’m not that quik to judge.I did not question James’es motives, where did you get that? How do you know that it is just one person?Burying Amy twice is just plan stupid.Explain to me why I’m exactly what’s wrong with this case.The only thing I’ve done is voice my opinion as I see it.
May 7th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Let’s end the personal attacks and let this forum be about questions and answers, please.
As far as what Amy’s mom said to police, I spoke to the woman, Barbara, who took the initial report. She said she could sense from Margaret some maternal instinct that Amy was in danger and that this was not a runaway.
Regarding the hanged car in Ashland Co. The man who did that was a man named Gerry Wears, I believe. He’s an interesting suspect, who served time in prison for sex crimes against children. I don’t think he’s been ruled out completely. He should probably be in the top 25.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
James, do you think the authorites have Rodger Martin on a long or short list?
May 8th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Of course not. That’s absurd.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
OH, IS IT?????
May 8th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
James – You mentioned the police have a short list of names for the man who contacted the North Olmsted girls. Do you think it is the same man that contacted the girls from Bay Village?
May 8th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I gota agree with AnOnYmOuS…..those characters down there are way over their heads into something..beit we all know what that is!!!!!
I don’t see North Olmsted in here anywhere,,this is to high powered. Sorry.
May 8th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
James, I didn’t mean to upset you.What did you mean when you said “Roger Martin is suspicious, and rightfully so.” I thought you ment he is a suspect also. The word absurd I felt was a bit strong.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
What I meant was Roger Martin is right to have suspicion about the case after the way he was shut out of the investigation. They didn’t share info with Ashland, so what happened was it allowed Ashland deputies to form consiracy theories of their own. This is one of the reasons there are so many myths surrounding this case–not enough info was shared with the public in the beginning. That’s all I meant. Roger’s a good guy. I trust him. Didn’t mean for it to sound harsh.
regarding the phone calls: I am quite certain the girls from North Olmsted were called by Amy’s killer. I’m not as certain about the girls from Bay Village, but it is certainly possible. I take those tips very seriously, and so do the investigators.
If you know of anyone else who got phone calls like that in 89, please contact me (or the FBI) asap.
May 9th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I don’t understand your meaning again. If the killer didn’t call anyone in Bay how did Amy get a call from the killer? Are you saying the killer called Amy and all the girls from North Olmsted and someone else called the girls from Bay? If the killer was talking dirty to the girls in North Olmsted why did he change his M.O.? How do you know he changed his M.O. when he called Amy.How do you know it’s the same man?
What was his other trademark to make you believe that?
May 10th, 2008 at 7:31 am
He didn’t change his MO at all. The girls in North Olmsted seem to have gotten the same call. “I work with your mother (or father). They just got a promotion…I’d like to help you pick out a present.” The calls in Bay Village (other than Amy) were mostly sexual in nature, a little different. The girls from North Olmsted and Amy are linked in a couple intruiging ways. Almost all of them were into horseback riding. In fact, most of them knew Amy’s riding instructor–and her brother–personally. There was also a man who boarded horses at Holly Hill, where Amy took lessons, who had a history of statutory rape, who bought a horse from one of the girls in North Olmsted, and boarded that horse where some of the others were taking lessons. And they were all connected to the Lake Erie Nature and Science Center, which kept a sign-in sheet where kids could sign in their names, addresses, and phone numbers.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:46 am
what happened to my post?
May 12th, 2008 at 9:25 am
James,
Since there are several pieces of information that was written incorrectly in your book, will you be writing a second book to clarify once again the mis represented information about Amy?
Or will you wait for this case to be solved and then write a second book?
May 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
That’s news to me.
What did you find that was “incorrect”?
-James
May 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Cindy what did you post?
May 12th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
There was a man who rented a house on Townline 79 who was originally from Bay Village. He was supposedly running a church out of this home – was told it was a satanic church. He had alot of teenage boys walking to his home at different times of the day & nite. Was told he was investigated and nothing became of it. Has anyone heard about this person?
May 13th, 2008 at 8:20 am
I think it was in an earlier post about the autopsy report that you first seen and then you got the real one and read a bit of a differant story about her. I was just curious about how you was going to update a second story about this case.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I thought you might be referring to the autopsy. I don’t know that I would call it incorrect info in the book. That info was quoted by William Gareau, who was the chief of police in Bay Village at the time of Amy’s abduction. I didn’t present it as fact, just a quote. And, I find it interesting that Gareau’s memory has morphed into myth over the years as well, so I’ll probably leave that in if/when there is another book. But, yes, I will also include the correct info directly from the report.
Curious: Do you have any more info on the man from TR 79? Name or name of church? Sounds interesting.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Way back then I had heard of a guy they called Ozzy or Ozzie that was in that area.He came from somewhere else. I don’t know where he went. Heard he was into that sort of thing.Heard he had long white hair.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
There is a church in Shelby I believe, that is called the little Rebecca Church. Strange things going on there.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
there were two guy’s in new london.
May 14th, 2008 at 4:11 am
The name of the church on TR 79 was called “Morning Star Chapel” and the guy’s first name was Steve – not sure what his last name was. The New London Police Dept should have it on record that they asked him to leave because they found out he was running a satanic church. Mitch Deaton was on the police force then and maybe he could answer any questions you have about that time period. I will try and find out what “Steve’s ” last name was. I do know that he came from Bay Village because he told me he did. I remember when he was in Kelly’s Flower Shop and bought a almost dead plant. Mr. Kelly’s daughter told him that she could find him a much better plant and he told her “my girlfriend likes to bring things back to life”. When he left she commented about what a weirdo he was and I said, yes – he’s my neighbor. He was a very odd fellow. He did stop over to my home and invited me to come over for his bible study session that he was having at his home. I said, “No thanks, I’m catholic” and left it go at that. Did not associate with him at all but did notice all the young teenage boys (hoods & clean cut) that were going to & from his house all the time. This man was supposedly a minister. Sorry if I don’t get back to your questions right away – I only get on the computer about once a day if time allows.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:40 am
I thought it was Morningstar you were talking about. I did a little research into this. There were a lot of people, law enforcement included, who suspected it was a satanic church. I know they were investigated, but I don’t believe anything came of it.
I’d be interested in Steve’s last name, though.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:48 am
Curious:
Did that man your talking about look anything like the composite?
May 15th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Do you know the exact location of the house he lived in?
May 16th, 2008 at 9:11 am
everybody on vacation?
May 17th, 2008 at 4:05 am
This is a test – I keep trying to send info to this website but my computer will not let me. I do not know why so I am trying this as a test.
May 17th, 2008 at 7:02 am
your test works. Try to send info again.
May 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Everytime I try to send my information a screen comes up that says “Duplicate comment detected ; it looks as though you’ve already said that
May 17th, 2008 at 11:55 am
I have had that happen to some of my comments too. Wonder why?
May 18th, 2008 at 6:23 am
I’ve done that too, however, I had double clicked on the send button and that’s what caused it. Sometimes the weather causes it too. Try sending it again and if it doesn’t go thru I’d say we all have a piece of this puzzle that fits and are being prevented from posting as it is a cover-up for some reason.
May 18th, 2008 at 8:15 am
A lot of people questioned why so many FBI agents were in the area back when Amy went missing and was discovered? The answer is “The Little Lindbergh Law of 1932″.
May 19th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Whatever happened to the DNA samples given by the suspects? I never heard about the results. Did anyone ever attempt to collect a DNA sample from Billy S.? Also, was there any connection between Billy S. and Ashland County?
May 19th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I couldn’t find any direct, confirmed connection between Billy S. and Ashland Co. I was told by the woman he raped that he used to talk about going to Ashland University to look at the college girls walking around.
Also, authorities do have Billy S’ DNA, to test if they haven’t already.
However, personally, I do not think that Billy Strunak killed Amy Mihaljevic (although, he shouldn’t be ruled out 100%). Was he a weirdo? Sure. But I don’t think he was capable of pulling something like this off. And I think the witnesses would have noticed his severe skin condition.
May 19th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
The last place that I heard of where this Steve person went was Norwalk.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
http://www.rememberamymihaljevic.blogspot.com/
Written for the “Westlife” Newspaper.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
a lot of people feel the same way.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:37 am
why don’t you just say it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Martin boys done it!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they didn’t have them prove it!!!!!!!!
It’s one of them with the new vehicle!!!!!!!!
I’m sick to death of hearring about that family and how perfect they were, cause they weren’t!!!!!
If they were then they wouldn’t have been talking about getting a divorce before Amy was killed for her to hear and tell her friend!!!!!!!!!!!
There was a reason for that mother to be drinking like a fish and everyone in Bay knew it!!!!
I don’t care James who you think that kid looked like, she probably belonged to someone else!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2008 at 10:37 am
You’re way out of line. And this is your last warning. If you do not stop, I will ask the site managers to locate your ip address and ban you from this site and scrub out your previous comments.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
O M G !!!
(I figure I would break the silence.)
sooo, how about this beautiful weather?
Everyone been getting their yards mowed? Gardens planted?
As if we already didnt know that the “feds” or any other offical office dont already know who we all are by looking up our IP address! We all need to be careful of what we put on here, yes we all are intitled to our opinions, but to fully outright say a name could come to a slanderous lawsuit, please be careful, with anything you post. We all have wanted to post a name at one point or another, we are showing restraint, and good judgement, I understand its easy to push the send button when there is so much fustration, I truly understand, I have been close so many times, but I know how things can be and how a person can be harrased about their opinions. How a family can be torn apart by harrasment, or even slanderous opinions.
can we agree to use a little more discretion
next time we want to post. Lesson learned…
moving on……….
May 27th, 2008 at 8:14 am
The little Rebecca church that was mentioned, they are generally “Old Regular Baptist” which is a strange religion but not satanic or anything of that nature! They just have very strange thoughts on what the Bible actually says! The congregation is “usually” older folks from the South!
May 28th, 2008 at 9:12 am
I just reread the book, and wondered if carpet fibers from the house BH grew up in were compared to those found on Amy’s body.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Do you mean HB?
May 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
The carpet fibers or not from carpet in a house, they are from the trunk of a vehicle…thats my oponion. All venues not just one.
May 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
We do not know where the fibers that were found on Amy’s body came from, for sure. Maybe carpet from a house, a vehicle, a trunk, or…a boat.
May 29th, 2008 at 6:04 am
You say above that you think witnesses would have noticed Billy’s skin condition, one of the boys did calling him “reddish”. Was he not considered a credible witness? When you say that Billy could not have pulled it off are you referring to the possability that there is a second suspect?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Good questions, Hope.
The boy who called the abductor “reddish” is not considered credible by investigators. I’m not entirely sure he witnessed the abduction either. The only people we know for sure saw Amy being abducted are the two classmates (a boy and a girl) who saw the well-dressed man lead Amy away.
No, do not believe that there is a second suspect.
May 30th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I was watching an “Amy” video on Utube last night, and it appeared to me that her abductor was a stranger to her. She told her friends that she was meeting someone she did not know, but who was a friend of her mother’s. If the abductor was someone she had previous contact with, wouldn’t she have recognized his voice?
Like Hope above, I was curious about the “reddish skin” comment. Did Billy S. ever have contact with Amy at any time? Where and when could he have noticed her before?
I read that nothing in the search of his apartment revealed any connection, but didn’t his family clean it out beforehand? Didn’t some of his own family members think he was involved?
May 31st, 2008 at 9:28 am
Yes, Billy’s family did clean out his house before the FBI could check it out. And yes, some family members also think he could be involved. It’s possible Billy may have known Amy’s mother through the flee market curcuit, but that’s never been proven. Billy remains a possible suspect, in my opinion, but doesn’t even make my top 10. I just don’t think it was him. I don’t think he could have pulled it off, for one. And I don’t see him contacting all those other girls from North Olmsted, either.
There are at least two men who are connected to the girls from North Olmsted and Amy. I’m much more interested in them.
May 31st, 2008 at 9:40 pm
When I asked if the carpet fibers found on Amy’s body were ever compared to those in the house where BH grew up, I was talking about the handyman who worked next door to Amy’s family. Did he ever do work for any of the families of the other girls who also received similar phone calls?
June 1st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Those two men sound interesting, will you be giving us the anticipated update soon? Also, were the reasons that the handyman Brad Harvey went to church for one week everyday right after ever determined. I believe that it was Kristy Sabo’s mother who gave that information.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:47 am
I don’t know if they ever compared fibers from Brad Harvey’s carpet to those found on Amy. I hope so. I find it very odd that he pulled out his carpeting two weeks after the book came out.
I do not think that he worked at any of the other girls’ homes. I don’t know why he went to church so often following Amy’s disappearance, but that is pretty much confirmed.
All I can say is the update will be relatively soon. Not this week. And it does not concern Mr. Harvey.
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
What about looking into who of your suspects sold a car or “junked” a car right after her being found or taken? is that public records?
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Good idea. Car records are interesting. I’m still researching that issue for a variety of cases. I know you can do some searches if you have a vin #, but I don’t know how to find a vin # for a specific car a person sold 20 or 25 years ago using just the person’s name.
Does anyone have suggestions about this?
-James
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
DMV
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Cindy: can you just type in a name and see what kind of vehicles this person(S) owned?
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
James should be able to do that, or he should know someone who does.He needs the right credentials.
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
You can’t access that through the DMV unless you’re in law enforcement. Not with that limited info. My private eye friend couldn’t even do it. What I’m looking for is a system that allows me to search past vehicle and vehicle vin #’s by name.
June 4th, 2008 at 8:15 am
What about a name ssn dob. and pervious addresses? I am sure some people have that info for you
June 4th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Even with that, how do you reach back and find vin #’s?
June 4th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
could you begin with a credit report and piece together loans and dealership information or see if a loan to a car was closed in 89 and then work the puzzle for that one particular suspect who seem to sell a car because his loan was closed out? I suppose we are assuming that the suspect was paying a loan on a car if that were to work.
June 4th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
or the car was sold or junked out and bought another just to be rid of that one. check junk yards? just a thought
June 5th, 2008 at 7:00 am
I think your best bet is to check the area junk yards to see if cars of that era were recently junked within the past few yrs. I don’t think they would have junked them out as it were until they left them set maybe in their back yard for a long time first in order to ruin any evidence that could still be in there.Then just ask the scrap dealer who the owner was.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I posted an update about Larry Bess on my blog. http://www.amymihaljevic.blogspot.com
June 9th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Bess definitely deserves a DNA test- that’s for sure. I was wondering what the deal was with HB? I’ve heard conflicting reports about his lie-detector results. Some have said that he passed, while others have said he failed.
Also, Renner mentioned in his Scene article that Amy posted her name and number on her Babysitter club postings around Bay…could the killer have gotten her name and number this way. Sorry- I’m a newbie so if this has already been discussed I apologize in advance.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:18 am
Welcome, TBrown.
It’s possible, of course, that the killer may have gotten the number from the flyer. But I think it’s more likely he got her number from the same place he got the numbers for the girls in North Olmsted who got the same creepy calls Amy did. Most likely, those numbers came from the visitor’s log at Lake Erie Nature and Science Center. It’s hard to prove that, though, since no one has been able to locate that log book, yet.
H.B., as in Harold Bound, failed numerous lie detector tests (he kept missing one question, he says) before volunteering for a sodium pentathol test. That was the last test, so, presumably, he passed it. Although, I don’t think lie detector tests were very reliable back then and Bound told me personally that he knew how to beat the test from his experience in Air Force intelligence during the Vietnam war.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Thanks for replying James- I really enjoyed your book.
I mean I’m certainly no expert, but whenever I think about this case, Bound’s name always comes up to me. You have to think that he would be on a short list for failing numerous lie detector tests. Although I have to believe that Bound did take a DNA test recently.
You’re right about those tests not being as reliable then as they are now…in fact it would seem as though that if this case were to have happened recently, it probably would be solved already. What do you think about this?
June 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am
I agree–if this case happened today, it would be solved a lot sooner. DNA technology has gotten better (the first case to convict a person based on DNA happened in 1989, the year Amy was abducted, so it was in its infancy). Lie detector tests have gotten better. And so has profiling.
Paradoxically, one of the reasons law enforcement agencies have gotten better at solving these sort of cases faster is that they used cases like this to train their agents and detectives (the reason there was so many FBI agents working on this case is that their academy used it as an opportunity for training).
June 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
James: I just finished your book. I got it from the library and my daughter and I both read it in the last week. My daughter remembers me talking about this case from when she was little (born in ‘82 – this happened right after her 7th birthday). I have just sat here at work and read this entire board (Man! I’m gonna be in trouble when I have to account for my time today…) As I was reading, even though the posts span almost a couple of years, I get a real sense that Harold Bound is YOUR #1 suspect. You think that the caller knew all the N.O. & Bay girls through horseback riding or the nature center. He would be the only one. There is no way we can go back that many years and look at any kind of phone calls is there? Why do the cops not put as much faith into the fact that the N.O. caller and Amy’s caller was the same person? That would have to be a Hell of a coincidence!! With regard to the carpet fibers, what about all the forensic advances we’ve made in the years since 1989 when it comes to the carpet fibers? Why can’t they figure out where the carbet fibers that were found on Amy came from? In the Krista case, they were able to pinpoint exactly where some of the forensic stuff came from… Just wondering.
June 10th, 2008 at