Picking and Choosing a Defense: Lisa Montgomery’s New Claim
Lisa Montgomery’s trial is slated to begin sometime in October. She is set to stand trial for kidnapping a baby she cut from the 8-month-old womb of Bobbie Jo Stinnett after strangling the woman unconscious.
Bobbie Jo bled to death after fighting with Lisa for her life and the life of her unborn child.
Lisa’s latest attempt to save her life—she is facing the death penalty—is a claim that she is mentally ill and that her illness contributed to the crimes committed.
According to Lisa’s neuropsychologist, she suffers from an illness that fools her into thinking she is pregnant.
This guy is a hired gun.
Last week in court he testified that the brain scans he took of Lisa’s big head indicate a consistency with women who suffer from a condition called pseudocyesis, which is a very rare psychological ailment that occurs in such a small number of people—four men included in one study—that it is hard for doctors to find cases to study.
In my book about Lisa and Bobbie Jo, I talked about this condition. Here’s an excerpt:
[The term pseudocyesis was coined by] John Mason Good in 1923 from the Greek words pseudes (false) and kyesis (pregnancy). Others claim the condition has been around for thousands of years, as it was first mentioned in 300 B.C. by Hippocrates, who wrote about twelve women who “believed they were pregnant.” Every definition of pseudocyesis is, for the most part, the same: a hallucination “pregnancy in women usually resulting from a strong desire or need for motherhood,” which clearly defined Lisa Montgomery’s behavior. Many women even stop menstruating as their “abdomen becomes enlarged and the breasts swell and even secrete milk, mimicking genuine pregnancy.”
Lisa Montgomery, several members of her immediate family agreed, had been irregular with her menstrual cycle most of her life. There was plenty of evidence to prove her stomach was distended whenever she claimed to be pregnant—whether she swallowed air and made it happen herself or not—and she openly displayed other characteristics that would have led people to have no reason to question her. In some women, the syndrome is so pronounced, the desire to have a child so deeply engrained in their psyche, the uterus and cervix “show signs of pregnancy” and “urine tests may be falsely positive.”
There was no evidence available to show any one of Lisa’s many false pregnancies had gone that far. …
Lisa Montgomery does not suffer from pseudocyesis.
This is a fact.
The prosecution put an expert on the stand last week, professor of neurology at the Montreal Neurological Institute, Alan Evans, who told the court “there was no evidence of such a condition” in Lisa’s case. From a careful review of the data, Evans confirmed that Lisa’s “brain is very close to normal.”
In other words, she had better come up with a better plan.
One of the problems with our system is that when we have defendants who are beyond a doubt 100% guilty, like Lisa Montgomery, the system allows them to sit down and take a look at all of the legal opportunities available and pick and choose. What I mean is, Lisa Montgomery admitted to her crimes. She was caught with Bobbie Jo’s baby in her arms and a mixture of her and Bobbie’s DNA was found in Bobbie’s house, in the trunk of Lisa’s car, under Lisa’s fingernails, and so on and so forth.
She spent months planning her crime—against Bobbie Jo. She picked Bobbie Jo and she learned how to do a C-section on the Internet weeks before the crime.
The need to have a child for Lisa overtook her senses, that much I can agree with. Lisa was not obsessed with being pregnant, however: she was obsessed with having a baby to cover up a progression of lies in her life.
Big difference between that and a woman suffering from pseudocyesis.
The way our system works, however, allows this waste of tax dollars to take place. Defendants can sit down and pick and choose a defense—instead of simply taking responsibility and facing the jury.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:52 am
Eventually, all crimes will be the result of an illness, even if that individual criminal is the only person in the history of the world to suffer from that particular illness. Nobody will ever be guilty. They will be afflicted. Nobody will ever be punished. They will be treated.
September 4th, 2007 at 8:56 am
If she was actually suffering from pseudocyesis, why would she feel it necessary to kill someone else and take their baby? It makes absolutely no sense. This woman is a cold, calculating, manipulative killer. At the very least she should be locked up for the rest of her natural life. A better choice would be death.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:22 am
Exactly what I was thinking Cari. How does this contribute? If they are going to use that how are they going to explain why she planned the murder/kidnapping to get a baby?
September 4th, 2007 at 10:16 am
I agree. It’s goofy. If she wanted a child so badly that she thought she was pregnant, she would have simply waited 9 months for her little blessing to arrive and left poor Bobbie out of it.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Amen Mike! Personal responsibility is a thing of the past in this country. Why take responsibility when repercussions are so icky and no fun?? I mean, surely we can explain away all bad behavior. Humans never do anything evil just simply because they are evil right?
My dog once had a “real” false pregnancy, which happens to be a hell of a lot more common than humans having this affliction. She had milk secretions and a distended belly, so much so, we really did think she was pregnant and wondered how she got knocked up. She did a whole lot of nesting and wanted to be on one blanket, which later became her pretend baby, 24/7. She never seemed homicidal however.
A false pregnancy calls for one to actually believe they are pregnant. Nowhere in literature does it mention the belief that the baby is being carried by someone else, in another state, whom you must seek out through the Internet in a convoluted ruse in order to assault and cut said baby out of womb.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:33 am
And may I state the obvious? That is one GOOFY lookin chick.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
There is a lady here in Bremerton who pushes around with a stuffed Tigger doll in a little toy stroller. Hmmm. If she really had the need to have a child there are other ways of filling that need other than sadistic murder. The freak.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
I have Matt’s book and this woman is a wack job but not medically. She knew what she was doing etc. It was premeditated by speaking with her on the internet etc.
she is grasping at straws.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Lol Melissa. She should have let go of the baby pursuit and focused on getting a chin implant.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
It just occurred to me who should play her in the movie- Marge Simpson.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
She should be executed as soon as possible, but don’t shoot her, that’d waste a bullet. Hang her and we can reuse the rope . . . The same punishment should go for everyone else that has out and out murdered someone and then claimed to have some serious illness. That way, the “illness” stops with them . . .
September 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
agreed…this is one sick “illness” so it is a blessing she did not procreate. She obviously is a nut and should be kept in prison for the rest of her natural life.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Hey Matt,
Do you know how the other women treat her in prison? Or how she perceives that she is treated?
Personally, I hope they spit in her food. But hey, that’s just me…
September 4th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Melissa Says:
“And may I state the obvious? That is one GOOFY lookin chick.”
…and the answer is, Alex, “What IS a chin?!”
September 4th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
“Last week in court he testified that the brain scans he took of Lisa’s big head…” FOFLMAO, Matt! And Marge Simpson, A.? LOL
Seriously though, I agree with Cari…this supposed affliction does not seem to cover the necessity of STEALING another woman’s baby from her womb! I think Mike S. is right about the sorry state of criminals’ defenses/excuses.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Stupid junk science. I saw a show last week about some man that claimed he conveniently blanked out every time he killed someone, and he had a team of doctors that claimed he couldn’t help himself. Yeah, right. And this ridiculous defense for this woman. I agree with Mike — we are on the brink of the no fault crime. It must be a very lucrative business hiring out as an expert witness. I feel so sorry for the victims’ families that have to listen to crap.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
She knew exactly what she was doing. She had everything planned in detail. She knew that she was kidnapping a baby – not having one. Bobbie Jo was just in her way. Cold and calculating!
Matt, please keep us updated on the trial. Thanks.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
At the risk of sounding really catty, if only she could have suffered from pseudochin instead.
(Okay, that was really bad, but, let’s be honest here, the woman has no chin.)
Her attorney really had better come up with a better plan, because there’s no way a jury will buy that.
September 4th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Please Rae, at the risk of sounding catty I was wondering how you can hang someone without a chin
.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Well, darn, at first glance I thought she had three chins. Now that I’ve taken closer look, it appears she has three rolls of neck and no chin.
Marge Simpson: LOL
September 4th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Lisa’s current defense is LAME O. What other defense would she have other than to plead insanity? I don’t see that her attorneys have much, if anything, to work with. They should just advise Lisa to plead guilty; the evidence against her is overwhelming. My guess will be that Lisa’s attorneys might try out several defenses at her trial hoping that one will stick. They have to be desperate at this point.
That photo of Lisa: She’s ready for Halloween!
September 4th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
The chin comments are too funny – love ‘em!
Personally, I’d rather her go through the process of a trial, be found guilt and get sentenced with the DP instead of pleading out and, more than likely, ending up in prison for life.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
What do her looks have to do with anything?? That’s just rude and immature.
People who commit crimes are getting more and more rights. It seems that everyone is going for the sanity defense. I know that are real psychological problems that many people suffer from, but the insanity defense shouldn’t be an option anymore. Unless someone has been hospitalized before, and in that case, they spend the REST of there life in a hospital for treatment. No chance of leaving, ever.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
If you painted her blue she’d look just like the sister of the K-Mart blue light bulb.
Seriously though, her crime itself proves that she didn’t suffer from this false pregnancy thing. If she or her body had thought she was pregnant, there would have been no need to procure a baby. She would have simply waited to have a baby, because she thought one was on the way.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Mike Schuler Says:
“If you painted her blue she’d look just like the sister of the K-Mart blue light bulb.”
LOL, Mike! Those two images are just begging to be a PhotoShop project for someone!!
September 4th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
I was going to suggest that she get a tattoo with the word “Michelin” on each of the neck rolls. Her neck is a dead ringer for some steel-belted radials.
September 5th, 2007 at 5:32 am
“Kristina Says:
September 4th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
What do her looks have to do with anything?? That’s just rude and immature.”
Kristina, we are talking about a woman who slit a young wife and mother-to-be open (with a kitchen knife, wasn’t it, Matt?), stole her precious baby, and left her to bleed to death. And you’re reprimanding us for poking a little fun at her lack of chin?
Please.
September 5th, 2007 at 5:40 am
You guys…LOL…you’re killing me with the chin jokes.
September 5th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Well, guys, if you were Gumby’s attorney, you’d probably grab at any defense you could find that just might sway one juror. I’m not saying I agree with it and am by no means defending Gumby’s actions. I am just saying that *anyone* in her predicament would go the limit and do whatever they needed to do to try to get out of this.
September 5th, 2007 at 7:43 am
Matt, I just read an article that says when she entered the courtroom this last time, the only person there was Kevin Montgomery, and she nodded to him. Does that mean he’s standing behind her still? Just curious.
September 5th, 2007 at 7:47 am
“Gumby”. I love that.
I understand why her attorney is making this argument, EM, I just think it’s one he should abandon, because I can’t see even one juror buying it. For the reasons stated here.
But, jurors have done odder things, so he probably won’t give this argument up.
September 5th, 2007 at 8:04 am
From what I understand, Kevin is totally behind her–but then, he has some things to hide, too, and sticking close by her would be in his best interest.
September 5th, 2007 at 9:37 am
You all have cracked me up – but I still think she’s guilty as sin and deserves everything she gets – I agree with Rae about the jurors not buying her defence. I really hope they don’t.
September 5th, 2007 at 10:42 am
It doesn’t matter if she had an illness or disease. The question is, was she able to control herself? Would she still have committed the crime if there had been a police officer standing there? If not, she was able to control herself. Her claimed “illness” had no more bearing on her decision to commit murder than measles or mumps of stomach flu would have had.
September 5th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Rae,
I know what she did, I read the article, but that doesn’t give anybody the right to make fun of her looks.
Sure, we all like to make jokes, but like I said.. it’s immature.
September 5th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Oh for crying out loud, Kristina. Take your bleeding heart, moral high ground diatribe and pound sand with it. Go wag your finger over something that actually matters.
September 5th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
It’s called gallows humor, Kristina, and it happens a lot here at Crime Rant. Roll with it.
September 5th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
I think Melissa is winning so far with the noose wouldn’t have anything to hold onto comment. Her mug shot isn’t any better, in fact, I’ll bet it’s the face she wears most times, when not in the public eye.
http://lisa-montgomery-news.newslib.com/story/2989-3181596/
September 5th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
lol kristina. Sure it does. I say it gives us the perfect right to make fun of her. It’s the least we can do.
September 5th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
thanks for the link Kimpossible.
We’ve covered the chin, I say we start in on the brows.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Oh, I was hoping someone would mention the brows. Thanks, A.
I was thinking maybe Black and Decker could hook up with Max Factor for a new line of brow trimming products.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Pseudocyesis, my ass!
This is like a child rapist claiming that because he gets an erection when he sees a child, he can’t help himself.
I understand what Kristina is saying, but the sad truth is that often human “monsters” actually look the part.
And furthermore, no one named Lisa is supposed to look so…hideous!
-Lisa
September 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Also, she was born with no ear lobes. Maybe she’s really an extraterrestrial alien sent here to conduct experiments on human reprodution.
Okay, maybe she’s not an alien, but she’s funny looking enough to be one though.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Would it be too cruel to say she looks like a chipmunk had sex with a llama?
September 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Crime Interrupted, is that your gentle way of saying she’s homely?
September 5th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Michelle Gray Says:
September 5th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
“Oh for crying out loud, Kristina. Take your bleeding heart, moral high ground diatribe and pound sand with it. Go wag your finger over something that actually matters.”
Ouch, that hurt… making fun of other people, shows alot about the character. It’s stupid. But it happens all the time, everywhere. My bleeding heart will go somewhere else for some adult conversation and debate.
September 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Man,if I got upset about every nasty name called on my website….I better not invite Kristina there.
It is SO hard to feel anything other than grief for the victim and her baby and disgust and loathing for this sick person who did it that I’m sorry to say all the clinical diganosis in the world is drowned out by the horrific nature of her act.Even if she DOES have some psychosis that makes here think she’s knocked up all the time,I say so damn what? Throw this scum in the deepest darket pit and leave her fugly ass there.
September 5th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Kristina,
I’d rather be thought of as immature by the likes of you than be seen as a nitwit who’s too intellectually bankrupt to know when, or when not to, defend the character of an asshat, such as this murdering wench.
If she was a nice lady and people were picking on her simply because she’s an ugly old hag, well then that wouldn’t be nice. But she’s about as far from being a nice lady as one can get. She’s a murdering psycho – similar to that whack-job Benoit that you also so staunchly defended. She’s looking at the death penalty because she’s such a nice lady!
I can’t believe that you are so insulted by individuals railing against cold blooded killers, like this murderess. A woman who cut the baby from the belly of another woman with a kitchen knife and then left her, with her womb split open, to bleed to death on the floor. I find your defense of Lisa Montgomery offensive, highly distasteful, and as a woman YOU should really be ashamed of yourself.
September 5th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Well said Michelle.
September 5th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
I agree with Michelle also.
Kristina, I do wonder why overly sensitive people such as yourself, peruse the web at all. And to read a discussion board or blog such as this–why? To police the rest of us? To tell us what to say? What to think? And why would it surprise or offend you when we rally against the worst of society? This website is called crimerant, not crimesympathize. And that’s what we do–rant.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:29 am
Well said, Michelle and A.
I’m sure there is a dyke somewhere which needs your long suffering finger, Kristina.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:55 am
Bravo, Michelle and A.! It would be different if we were making fun of someone like Mother Teresa or the Pope or any other of truly good people. But we’re not; we’re making fun of a vicious killer who just happens to look like the offspring of Marge Simpson and Gumby.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:08 am
Guys come on, I’m not defending this women. I found this website when I was searching for info on Chris Benoit, and I’ve read every article since then. This is the first post that I’ve seen where everyone is making fun of the way someone looks.
I don’t know this person, and I’m not defending what she did. But I will say something when half of the posts on here are making fun of the way she looks, it has nothing to do with the article that Gregg and Matt posted.
You have your opinions and I have mine.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Kristina–why DO you think they posted a picture of her?
September 6th, 2007 at 10:50 am
btw, in the past we’ve covered a miriad of shallow observations here, including: Rita Cosby’s heavy make-up, John Mark Karr’s weird face, and Greta’s plastic re-do to name a few. I’m pretty sure we’ve also touched on Benoit’s mullet, Anna Nicole’s chest, Britney’s underwear, and gosh, just a bunch of immature mintiae that makes posting here fun.
I’ll even admit to restraining myself when it came to Mary Winkler and the fact that I became momentarily obsessed with waxing her upper lip.
So, as you can see, this really isn’t the first time we’ve made fun of someone. And I doubt it will be our last.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:47 am
Gawd, Kristina, lighten up.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Maybe I shouldn’t be laughing so hard here, but what the hell, I AM. LOLOLOLOL.
I just love all you Crime Ranters!!!
September 6th, 2007 at 11:52 am
OMG A. That is funny as hell. I thought the same thing about Mary Winkler.
Anyway Kristina,
Not for nothing, but sometimes you have to find the humor in life otherwise people would go bonkers. Her actions were not humorous at all and neither are her looks relative to her crime. Even still it is a simple way to aleve the sense of horror that she brought about.
I don’t know her or Boobi Jo, but I can imagine the victem’s fear during the time she suffered. I can imagine how much her child will suffer. I don’t think that being the brunt of some off colored jokes is her biggest concern right now.
Maybe she can use her looks as a reason for acting insane. I think she would probably get off once the jury take a look at her.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
I just read everyone’s comments and, since I’m at work (law firm!!), I had to cover my mouth to muffle my guffaws at all of the gallows humor. I agree with y’all that this site is called CrimeRANT for a reason…there is not much room for sympathy here for the Lisa Montgomerys of the world, ESPECIALLY when they’re as butt-ugly as SHE is.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
OMG Rae, I think I saw a dyke needing a long-suffering finger inserted at my job today!! LOLOL!
We are all so going straight to hell!
September 6th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
I would just like to add that I think we also might have noticed John Mark Karr’s man boobs.
I wouldn’t want any of our immature remarks to be overlooked.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Diane Downs and her goat eyes…
September 6th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
and Mary LeTourneau’s ears…
September 6th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
speaking of eyes Rae, there was that gal/bride with the big eyes that opened really wide, do you remember her?
Wow, we’ve been mocking anyone with a mugshot for a long time.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Kristina said:”But I will say something when half of the posts on here are making fun of the way she looks, it has nothing to do with the article that Gregg and Matt posted.” Did you not notice Matt’s subtle remark:
and it still makes me LMAO every time I read it (and I keep going back and reading it!!!). You guys are all too funny!
“Last week in court he testified that the brain scans he took of Lisa’s big head…” Matt started it
September 6th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
You girls know that putting your finger in a dike is different from putting your finger in a dyke right? One would actually MAKE you a dyke lol Which totally makes this thread go offbase, and really hilarious.
I agree, Matt started it. Though I must say, she has a tiny head. AND NO FRICKEN CHIN!!
I am totally immature for my 38 years. The fact that I said totally proves it.
This case is done. Marge is going to be in jail for the rest of her no chin life.
September 6th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Sorry Kristina, her face just reminds me of constipation. Sorry if thats immature.
September 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Melissa, I think her head just looks tiny because of no chin…can’t tell where the head really starts! If you pencil in where the chin should be, I think the head would be pretty big! Acually it is rather like Gumby’s head- it just blends into the rest of her! OK, OK, I guess enough is enough…
September 6th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Melissa, that was an unintentional Freudian typo on my part!
A, you mean Jennifer Willbanks? She does have some bizarre eyes…either that, or she was taking waaay too many pep pills.
September 6th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Didn’t Matt post Jennifer Willbanks’ bug-eyed photo side-by-side with that of Steven Grant who dismembered his wife, Tara?
Yes, I think he did…hmmm…I am beginning to think that the immaturity starts at the top with one of our beloved leaders.
September 6th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Einstein’s Mom Says:
“hmmm…I am beginning to think that the immaturity starts at the top with one of our beloved leaders.”
LOL – the trickle down theory?
By the way, has anyone seen my rattle and my blankie? I could have sworn I had them the last time I came in here…
September 6th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Ya know what, go ahead and continue making fun of her, what’s the point anyway.
But I don’t think I deserved half the crap that was said to me.
September 7th, 2007 at 7:41 am
Sure you did Kristina. Thats the price when you try to play the moral police.
September 7th, 2007 at 11:28 am
No Melissa I don’t think I do. I’ve taken these “beatings” before and it was totally uncalled for.
I wasn’t defended this women for the crime she committed, just the fact that a bunch of “wolves” were making fun of the way she looks.
September 7th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Call me immature, but…..I still say she looks like she fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Why does it matter so much whether we make fun of her, Kristina? She (allegedly) cut a BABY, a human being from another woman’s body, for selfish, disgusting reasons. She had NO compassion for Bobbie Jo, a woman she left to die. I personally, sleep JUST FINE, even though I’ve made fun of her. Personally, I am a very compassionate person, as are the majority of the people that post here (those being the ones I know). I don’t go around kicking people around because they are unattractive. I don’t throw rocks at people because they are unattractive. I also don’t consider myself to be the most attractive person in the world. However, I don’t really care or have any compassion for a waste of flesh person with no soul, such as Lisa Montgomery.
September 7th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Your right, she’s not the most attractive person in the world. I just think some of the posts went a little to far. Personally, I’d love to pull the switch on her for what she did. Aside from that, it still doesn’t make it right to make fun of her looks.
I know I’ve fighting a lost cause. It’s sad that it got taken this far.
September 7th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
“Kristina Says:
September 7th, 2007 at 11:28 am
just the fact that a bunch of “wolves” were making fun of the way she looks.”
So, what? WE don’t have the right to make fun of Montgomery’s looks, but YOU have the right to call us names?
Kristina, you read the above article, and what you seem to find most objectionable is the fact that we made fun of Montgomery’s looks? Seriously, all kidding aside, you need to adjust your sense of perspective. Or get one.
Lisa Montgomery committed an inhuman and horrifically inhumane act. The second she did that, she eliminated any rights she had to be treated like anything other than the animal she is.
If you don’t like the “beatings’, then stop playing the moral police on this thread.
September 7th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Tell ya what, Kristina. How about you pop on over at Amazon and buy a copy of Matt’s book, Murder In The Heartland.” Read his graphic account of what happened to Bobbie Jo, 23-years old and 8-months pregnant, and THEN you come back her and wag your morally superior finger at the rest of us for being “immature” and “wolves.”
I think you are so consumed with presenting your self-perceived moral superiority to us, as though YOU are above such things, that you fail to grasp the reality of just how ugly Lisa Montgomery truly is. The physical appearance, in her case, goes further than just to the bone. It permeates her very soul. Our jabs about her lack of chin compare in NO WAY to the actual ugliness of this woman. No way!
September 7th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
You say Dike, I say Dyke, tomato, to-mah-toe…
This sad sack of human vermin CUT OPEN a woman’s abdomen and REMOVED her unborn baby!
I feel justified in calling her ignorant, ugly, hideous, satanic ass anything I want!
Of course she’s mentally disturbed, but I just don’t see her on the same plane as those of us who actually suffer from, and learn to live with, REAL mental/emotional issues!
I really do feel a kind of hate for “people” who torture and kill innocents.
NO EXCUSES!!
September 7th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Kristina,
Are you saying you have never watched Carson, Leno, Mencia, Stewart, Colbert and not laughed? That is what those people do. Make light of the stupidity that surrounds us in this world. If you have laughed at one single comment made about the president, or a current celeb fallen from grace, or watched America’s funniest home videos even, you are just as guilty as the rest of us.
If you haven’t then you really need to lighten up some.
September 7th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
LOL, lisafer, what I said was in jest for a misspelling by Rae. But the 2 words mean TOTALLY different things. Especially in the context of putting a finger into one. It was a joke.
September 8th, 2007 at 5:49 am
Melissa, I got the joke. The first time.
On a side note, isn’t the funniest name ever:
Dick Van Dyke
?
September 8th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
come on guys is the worst we can do on this case is pick on her looks? ever heard of don’t judge a book by its cover?
September 8th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Jeanne, nobody would be cracking jokes about her looks if it werent for the facts that her book is worse than her cover, we know her book, so making fun of the cover is a natural thing to do.
September 8th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
oh alright go ahead then
September 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I don’t think I’m morally superior to anyone. Not at all.
I stated an opinion, that’s it. You guys took it to the next level, not me.
But what ever, I’ll learn to roll with it.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:39 am
Whatever Kristine, you called us names, called us immature etc. Meanwhile you think its ok to talk to young children about murder due to steroids, and have still tried to compete with nobody in particular how articulate you are in the acting world of WWE, where there are monsters beating on each other to death. You defended dog fighting.
You stated your opinion, so deal with it. You defended a murderer, have defended dog fighters etc, but when it comes down to a woman who cut a baby out of a woman to snatch her baby you are offended that we make fun of her chin. IMO – you are nuts.
September 9th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Melissa,
My name is Kristina, and I did not defend dog fighting. No way.
Regarding Benoit, yeah I made some dumb a** comments. I know what he did, I don’t think I was trying to defend him. Maybe it came across that way to you. I was trying to figure out why he did what he did. In no way did I excuse it.
And this lady, I DID NOT defend her. I didn’t understand why everyone here was making fun of the way she looks. Because she was unattractive, she killed a women. I said it was immature to make fun of her looks. And when I said “wolves” I was using the term loosely.
You don’t know anything about me or my life. If you think I’m nuts, there’s nothing I can do to change that. When I comment on an article, I say what I feel.
I’m sorry it has gone this far, I really am.
September 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Even if she had this condition it wouldn’t over-ride her capacity to know right from wrong. Sounds like the defense is hoping to throw out anything in desperate hope that something will stick or at least niggles at the back of a jurors mind.
Whether they buy the claim or not she will probably escape the death penalty. Statistics are on her side and I expect the jurors will find her a pathetic enough character that they will spare her life.
April 5th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Another sad facet of this story is that Lisa Montgomery has kids. Her daughter continues to post on the dog breeder’s board where her mother made a date with her victim(s), and recently produced a child of her own at a very young age. Creepy all around!
And yes, Lisa Montgomery is the ugliest woman I have ever seen, inside and out!
July 21st, 2008 at 6:01 am
If any of ya’ll come back and read this message… I just want you to know that you people are dumb and Kristina is right. If you go back and read these comments, all of you sound like a bunch of pimply faced pre-teens trying to argue online. Bringing up the fact that Lisa Montgomery is unattractive is just plain tacky… If this was my website, I would be disturbed that I have idiots coming to read what I write. And, besides, absolutely none of those comments about Montgomery being ugly were funny, so please do not compare yourselves to Carson, Leno, or Colbert.
Get a life, losers….
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 am
I don’t think there is anything wrong with noticing the fact that Lisa Montgomery is unattractive and pathetic in physical appearance. Often what a person is on the inside affects how they develop on the outside. It is pretty obvious that she was an uncaring hideous person.
I don’t think people should be on here insulting how people feel (vi). The entire point of this site is to be able to express emotion about a very troubling subject – to grieve for the loss of Bobbie Jo Stinnett.
What happened was sick and sad and I am hopeful Lisa will be put to death. A sentence should fit the crime.
A further note – I am not a pimply pre-teen; I am an adult who is currently expecting twins. I think vi needs to deal with anger issues. You obviously have some core problem when you seek out sites to insult people who are trying to have a discussion. You should get to the root of your sickness. I also noticed you had nothing viable to say on the direct subject. Grow up.