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]]> By: Kyle http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-205478 Kyle Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:23:23 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-205478 Hello, I only just heard about this today through a GLSEN networked email. What a horrible tragedy. I'm glad someone has had the sense to include Mrs. Shepard's input. I have worked with youth in foster care including those there because they were being abused because of their sexual orientation/gender identity. Victims, untreated, often shut down and some even become perpetrators to act out their fear and shame. I encourage our GLBT community, PLEASE don't let Larry's death or Brandon's heinous act be an opportunity for anyone (including political candidates) to flag wave in the name of support. By all means, STAND UP where you are and find ways to be deliberately involved in GLBT rights, GSA's, family outreach programs (like PFLAG), legal changes, etc. However, also gay or straight PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CHILDREN & TREAT THEM AS THE PRECIOUS GIFT THAT THEY ARE! Also, note the fact that forums to openly discuss and review this horrible tragedy is a positive and of precious value which people seem to overlook. As a gay man and a parent of three, my heart goes out to the families of both boys and their communities. PEACE, PLEASE Hello,
I only just heard about this today through a GLSEN networked email. What a horrible tragedy. I’m glad someone has had the sense to include Mrs. Shepard’s input.
I have worked with youth in foster care including those there because they were being abused because of their sexual orientation/gender identity. Victims, untreated, often shut down and some even become perpetrators to act out their fear and shame. I encourage our GLBT community, PLEASE don’t let Larry’s death or Brandon’s heinous act be an opportunity for anyone (including political candidates) to flag wave in the name of support. By all means, STAND UP where you are and find ways to be deliberately involved in GLBT rights, GSA’s, family outreach programs (like PFLAG), legal changes, etc. However, also gay or straight PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CHILDREN & TREAT THEM AS THE PRECIOUS GIFT THAT THEY ARE!
Also, note the fact that forums to openly discuss and review this horrible tragedy is a positive and of precious value which people seem to overlook.
As a gay man and a parent of three, my heart goes out to the families of both boys and their communities.
PEACE, PLEASE

]]> By: connor http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-204900 connor Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:34:55 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-204900 What blows my mind is that one boy was doing everything but scream "My name is Britney Spears" and the other was being brought up in an atmosphere of violence, and apparently not one adult stepped in to help either of them. Larry was apparently allowed to reach the point at which his behaviour would have constituted sexual harassment if directed at a girl, and no one did a thing to help him understand that finding someone attractive doesn't excuse harassing them. Brandon apparently was so uninformed and insecure and programmed for violence that he had no rational response to Larry's behavior, and no one did a thing to help him understand either Larry's behavior or his own response to it. I think that before we damn Brandon as the sole cause of this, we ask ourselves where the devil the adults were while these two boys were on a collision course with disaster. What blows my mind is that one boy was doing everything but scream “My name is Britney Spears” and the other was being brought up in an atmosphere of violence, and apparently not one adult stepped in to help either of them. Larry was apparently allowed to reach the point at which his behaviour would have constituted sexual harassment if directed at a girl, and no one did a thing to help him understand that finding someone attractive doesn’t excuse harassing them. Brandon apparently was so uninformed and insecure and programmed for violence that he had no rational response to Larry’s behavior, and no one did a thing to help him understand either Larry’s behavior or his own response to it. I think that before we damn Brandon as the sole cause of this, we ask ourselves where the devil the adults were while these two boys were on a collision course with disaster.

]]> By: J. Williams http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-194582 J. Williams Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:52:31 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-194582 people people please.the crime committed was not based on hate because the boy was expressing his individuality.but because he was expressing it too much so towards another boy who obviously did not appreciate it.he hated it so much that he felt he was justified in shooting the boy. do you honestly think that Brandon would have shot Larry had he not harrassed the boy.im not saying that its good obviously the shooter had some issues that should have been dealt with and could have been dealt with instead of shooting...but...this is much more complex than a general hate crime its a case of emotional bullying. i am positive that the Larry knew that Brandon did not like him pressing on to him. had the school taken measures to prevent him from emotionally bullying the boys in that school maybe this issue wouldnt have happened.the school should have also took steps towards prevtenting the kids in that school from bullying him because of his individuality (which is really a hate crime) it wouldnt have gotten to the point that Larry felt justified in sexually harrassing the boys in the school. This issue is truely a hard one to solve and will always occur because freedom of speech and expressing ones self can b a two-sided sword as shown by this tragic incident. people people please.the crime committed was not based on hate because the boy was expressing his individuality.but because he was expressing it too much so towards another boy who obviously did not appreciate it.he hated it so much that he felt he was justified in shooting the boy. do you honestly think that Brandon would have shot Larry had he not harrassed the boy.im not saying that its good obviously the shooter had some issues that should have been dealt with and could have been dealt with instead of shooting…but…this is much more complex than a general hate crime its a case of emotional bullying. i am positive that the Larry knew that Brandon did not like him pressing on to him. had the school taken measures to prevent him from emotionally bullying the boys in that school maybe this issue wouldnt have happened.the school should have also took steps towards prevtenting the kids in that school from bullying him because of his individuality (which is really a hate crime) it wouldnt have gotten to the point that Larry felt justified in sexually harrassing the boys in the school. This issue is truely a hard one to solve and will always occur because freedom of speech and expressing ones self can b a two-sided sword as shown by this tragic incident.

]]> By: Jason http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-194531 Jason Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:47:21 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-194531 And we want Obama to be our President?? Anyways hate is the way of life right now and you can blame it on our way of life. Everything we do is either for power or to be popular and people will hate one or the other wether you have power or are popular. It's true!.... Think about it. And we want Obama to be our President?? Anyways hate is the way of life right now and you can blame it on our way of life. Everything we do is either for power or to be popular and people will hate one or the other wether you have power or are popular. It’s true!…. Think about it.

]]> By: jenny http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-178123 jenny Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:04:29 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-178123 This is a horrible hate crime, but it's also another gun in school. One of my first thoughts after hearing about Larry King was; how can a kid get hold of a gun? Where did he get it from? The US must spend billions of dollar on national security to protect its citizens from terrorists. One of the actions being; the war in the middle east. At the same time it seems that the people are still not familiar with the thought of reducing the private armys at home. I find it very strange, although I admire the US for taking international responsibillity and making though descisions that no other country can or would do. But the right to carry arms is not a right. The right to not get shot, or worry that you might get shot - that is a right. Who are the americans protecting themselves from with the gun under their pillow? The blacks? The whites? The Jews? Or the young boy with a pair of high heels? This is a horrible hate crime, but it’s also another gun in school.

One of my first thoughts after hearing about Larry King was; how can a kid get hold of a gun? Where did he get it from?

The US must spend billions of dollar on national security to protect its citizens from terrorists. One of the actions being; the war in the middle east. At the same time it seems that the people are still not familiar with the thought of reducing the private armys at home.

I find it very strange, although I admire the US for taking international responsibillity and making though descisions that no other country can or would do.

But the right to carry arms is not a right. The right to not get shot, or worry that you might get shot – that is a right.

Who are the americans protecting themselves from with the gun under their pillow? The blacks? The whites? The Jews? Or the young boy with a pair of high heels?

]]> By: charlie http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-158340 charlie Mon, 05 May 2008 01:09:42 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-158340 I am a 52 year old gay man who has been widowed since 1991. Despite the prejudice, hatred and fear of gay people,I made my life with another man who filled me with his love and hopes and dreams.He died in 1991, killed by a drunk driver on the New Jersey Turnpike. (The killer was from North Carolina. He reveled at the trial that he was responsible for KILLING a FAG. The judge sentenced him to 7 to 12 years. He was released from prison in September, 1993, two years later. I had thought about killing him but I decided against that. Our kids and grandchildren needed me more than retribution against ignorance. My accomplishments would have been greater if I did not encounter and 'embrace' the negative aspects of fear in a society that relegates gay people to comedy or subversion. We adopted two children together. It was legal only because it cost a lot of money. We were not rich! We taught our children to RESPECT everyone. It sickens me that nothing has changed in America. We were able to survive as a gay parented family in our society by lying and being deceptive with our legal system. We wanted a family and children. We lied about EVERYTHING. Fortunately MY family helped us and the agency helped us (for $75,000) in 1983 ( a LOT of MONEY in 1983) and it was a miracle we lived in New York City, instead of some Baptist owned and operated backwater town run by NEO-CON CHRISTIAN FUNDIES. Larry King DIED in California in 2008 because he was gay, killed by the hand of a teenage schoolmate who learned from his community and his peers that it is OK to kill gay people. For those of us who want to say the killer was just a child,he is- and so are the 'teen' killers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are brainwashed to kill 'their' enemies. GAY people need to be protected under our Constitution like every other American, otherwise the Constitution becomes just another piece of paper. Maybe someday children like Larry King won't be killed for being gay! Fortunately I will live in NYC until I die! Our children by the way are both heterosexual. Our daughter has three children and lives in the suburbs. Our son still lives at home with me. I am a 52 year old gay man who has been widowed since 1991.

Despite the prejudice, hatred and fear of gay people,I made my life with another man who filled me with his love and hopes and dreams.He died in 1991, killed by a drunk driver on the New Jersey Turnpike. (The killer was from North Carolina. He reveled at the trial that he was responsible for KILLING a FAG. The judge sentenced him to 7 to 12 years. He was released from prison in September, 1993, two years later. I had thought about killing him but I decided against that. Our kids and grandchildren needed me more than retribution against ignorance.

My accomplishments would have been greater if I did not encounter and ‘embrace’ the negative aspects of fear in a society that relegates gay people to comedy or subversion.

We adopted two children together. It was legal only because it cost a lot of money. We were not rich! We taught our children to RESPECT everyone.

It sickens me that nothing has changed in America.

We were able to survive as a gay parented family in our society by lying and being deceptive with our legal system. We wanted a family and children. We lied about EVERYTHING. Fortunately MY family helped us and the agency helped us (for $75,000) in 1983 ( a LOT of MONEY in 1983) and it was a miracle we lived in New York City, instead of some Baptist owned and operated backwater town run by NEO-CON CHRISTIAN FUNDIES.

Larry King DIED in California in 2008 because he was gay, killed by the hand of a teenage schoolmate who learned from his community and his peers that it is OK to kill gay people. For those of us who want to say the killer was just a child,he is- and so are the ‘teen’ killers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are brainwashed to kill ‘their’ enemies.

GAY people need to be protected under our Constitution like every other American, otherwise the Constitution becomes just another piece of paper. Maybe someday children like Larry King won’t be killed for being gay!

Fortunately I will live in NYC until I die! Our children by the way are both heterosexual. Our daughter has three children and lives in the suburbs. Our son still lives at home with me.

]]> By: freddie Rios http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-145651 freddie Rios Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:05:23 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-145651 we have one World, and we need to live all toguether in this one , because ain't no other World or place to go, we killing each others without a reason, white hate blacks, blacks hate hispanics, non gay hate the gays , and ect. this is not working for no one , is like a cats and dogs non sense chase, some people want to be supremasist's other want to leave in peace and live to be , and be to live , STOP HATE CRIMES , STOP HATE, we all GOD creation and we need this World for all, no matter colors, religion or political desires. we have one World, and we need to live all toguether in this one , because ain’t no other World or place to go, we killing each others without a reason, white hate blacks, blacks hate hispanics, non gay hate the gays , and ect. this is not working for no one , is like a cats and dogs non sense chase, some people want to be supremasist’s other want to leave in peace and live to be , and be to live , STOP HATE CRIMES , STOP HATE, we all GOD creation and we need this World for all, no matter colors, religion or political desires.

]]> By: freddie Rios http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-145649 freddie Rios Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:54:07 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-145649 100 years in jail ( sentence as adult ) with no -consecutive with any other sentence, to Brandon McInerney., this crime was hate crime and premeditated, he will be someone wife inside the jail and he will pay with his own flesh this crime. 100 years in jail ( sentence as adult ) with no -consecutive with any other sentence, to Brandon McInerney., this crime was hate crime and premeditated, he will be someone wife inside the jail and he will pay with his own flesh this crime.

]]> By: Jeanne From NC http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499&cpage=2#comment-134097 Jeanne From NC Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:49:20 +0000 http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1499#comment-134097 They had been fighting for a while from what the school said. They said they knew about the rift and offered the boys counseling. Whether or not they took it hasn't been revealed. They had a verbal altercation the day before the shooting. It is about more than just being gay. Think about the Jenny Jones case that never made it to air. Why did the case hold up in court? cause the dude was embarrassed as hell and knew it would be shown on national television. Brandon was embarrased and probably teased by the other boys about said valentine.I hope he speaks so we can know more. They had been fighting for a while from what the school said. They said they knew about the rift and offered the boys counseling. Whether or not they took it hasn’t been revealed. They had a verbal altercation the day before the shooting. It is about more than just being gay. Think about the Jenny Jones case that never made it to air. Why did the case hold up in court? cause the dude was embarrassed as hell and knew it would be shown on national television.

Brandon was embarrased and probably teased by the other boys about said valentine.I hope he speaks so we can know more.

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