<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Richard Hawkins: &#8216;Now I&#8217;ll be famous&#8217;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.crimerant.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=1285" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285</link>
	<description>Deliberating Crime Coast to Coast</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:31:50 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: download music</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-259298</link>
		<dc:creator>download music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-259298</guid>
		<description>The truth is, the technology we have developed clearly comes along with a responsibility that is trumped by money. We should renounce our media system, and boycott all the negative news we are exposed to. We need to know, but these delusional criminals are clearly driven by the desire to be on the news. By the way, Nancy Grace is a perfect example of the exploitation of the unfortunate happenings in people&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is, the technology we have developed clearly comes along with a responsibility that is trumped by money. We should renounce our media system, and boycott all the negative news we are exposed to. We need to know, but these delusional criminals are clearly driven by the desire to be on the news. By the way, Nancy Grace is a perfect example of the exploitation of the unfortunate happenings in people&#8217;s lives.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ares Vista</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-259296</link>
		<dc:creator>Ares Vista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-259296</guid>
		<description>I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to blame the media for the fame-greedy criminals, but aren&#039;t they adding to the problem by covering bad news stories? Or are we to blame for watching to see what bad stuff will happen daily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to blame the media for the fame-greedy criminals, but aren&#8217;t they adding to the problem by covering bad news stories? Or are we to blame for watching to see what bad stuff will happen daily?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-106590</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-106590</guid>
		<description>They don&#039;t name rape victims or minors simply to protect their privacy, considering their age and/or the sensitive nature of the crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t name rape victims or minors simply to protect their privacy, considering their age and/or the sensitive nature of the crime.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-96057</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-96057</guid>
		<description>That is good to know.  I am one of those freaks who would go and live in a cave with my guns and dog if I had to.  Kinda like a survivalist.  Since I&#039;m up in the way out there boonies in Virginia (REAL close to West Virginia), we rough it in the woods alot.  have 250+ acres against National Forest and do alot of camping year round.  No running water...unless you count the three creeks...no electricity...3 outhouses that stink so I use the woods.  Hey, at least I bring a toothbrush and my own toilet paper :&gt;)

Seriously, I would be OK out there if we ever had a 3rd world war that put us in the dark ages.  My kids would not be happy though, no Guitar Hero!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is good to know.  I am one of those freaks who would go and live in a cave with my guns and dog if I had to.  Kinda like a survivalist.  Since I&#8217;m up in the way out there boonies in Virginia (REAL close to West Virginia), we rough it in the woods alot.  have 250+ acres against National Forest and do alot of camping year round.  No running water&#8230;unless you count the three creeks&#8230;no electricity&#8230;3 outhouses that stink so I use the woods.  Hey, at least I bring a toothbrush and my own toilet paper :&gt;)</p>
<p>Seriously, I would be OK out there if we ever had a 3rd world war that put us in the dark ages.  My kids would not be happy though, no Guitar Hero!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-96045</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-96045</guid>
		<description>I guess I would classify myself as one, I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.  I like Ron Paul lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I would classify myself as one, I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative.  I like Ron Paul lol.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-95988</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-95988</guid>
		<description>Mellisa,

I agree, to stop the victimization has to be why.  As for not naming minors, it goes deeper because law already protects them as being such.  When I was dispatching at the local PD, the dispatchers had to keep the public docket up to date. If a minor commit a crime, we could only type &quot;minor&quot; in the name category since that docket/book was constantly read by anyone who came in and asked permission to do so (mostly newspaper reporters...that&#039;s how they get their lists of &quot;local crimes&quot; to print in the papers).  Only the arresting officer(s) and the detectives were allowed to see the paperwork on such an incident.  Was kept locked up downstairs in the detective&#039;s work area...it would be curtains for anyone caught snooping (as it should be).  I only witnessed one rape victim in person who came in with her mother to report the crime.  Normally, they are ushered through a back door for the detectives to speak to privately.  The rapist on the other hand came in in handcuffs and was also interrogated, but away from the victim of course.  I knew the mother, so it was really sad for me to know what she and her daughter must have been going through.  Mom&#039;s body language told me she was not pleased I was there to know what was going on, but I have never even said anything to my husband, and would never do so although this was 10+ years ago. 

It DOES make sense not to name persons who commit any type of hate crime in the paper or on television.  To go on a shooting rampage must be that.  I mean, how much hate must a person have inside to do such a thing?  Even if deeply depressed, has to come from somewhere that is not &quot;good&quot;.

My point though was simply that people want to know everything and it will be a hard piece of legislation to get passed, although it is a good idea.  

Glad I&#039;m not the only conservative in here.  Any other Libertarians around ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mellisa,</p>
<p>I agree, to stop the victimization has to be why.  As for not naming minors, it goes deeper because law already protects them as being such.  When I was dispatching at the local PD, the dispatchers had to keep the public docket up to date. If a minor commit a crime, we could only type &#8220;minor&#8221; in the name category since that docket/book was constantly read by anyone who came in and asked permission to do so (mostly newspaper reporters&#8230;that&#8217;s how they get their lists of &#8220;local crimes&#8221; to print in the papers).  Only the arresting officer(s) and the detectives were allowed to see the paperwork on such an incident.  Was kept locked up downstairs in the detective&#8217;s work area&#8230;it would be curtains for anyone caught snooping (as it should be).  I only witnessed one rape victim in person who came in with her mother to report the crime.  Normally, they are ushered through a back door for the detectives to speak to privately.  The rapist on the other hand came in in handcuffs and was also interrogated, but away from the victim of course.  I knew the mother, so it was really sad for me to know what she and her daughter must have been going through.  Mom&#8217;s body language told me she was not pleased I was there to know what was going on, but I have never even said anything to my husband, and would never do so although this was 10+ years ago. </p>
<p>It DOES make sense not to name persons who commit any type of hate crime in the paper or on television.  To go on a shooting rampage must be that.  I mean, how much hate must a person have inside to do such a thing?  Even if deeply depressed, has to come from somewhere that is not &#8220;good&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point though was simply that people want to know everything and it will be a hard piece of legislation to get passed, although it is a good idea.  </p>
<p>Glad I&#8217;m not the only conservative in here.  Any other Libertarians around ?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-95841</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-95841</guid>
		<description>Brenda, WHY do you think they not name minors and rape victims?  To stop more victimization?  Thats what I think it is.

Stop naming the perp and making them &quot;Famous&quot; then we will stop these sick kids from taking out others.  They wont have the I will be famous, taking them out in style etc attitude.

Plus as an added bonus their FAMILIES will not be further victimized.

And you aren&#039;t the only conservative here, not saying that I am one lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda, WHY do you think they not name minors and rape victims?  To stop more victimization?  Thats what I think it is.</p>
<p>Stop naming the perp and making them &#8220;Famous&#8221; then we will stop these sick kids from taking out others.  They wont have the I will be famous, taking them out in style etc attitude.</p>
<p>Plus as an added bonus their FAMILIES will not be further victimized.</p>
<p>And you aren&#8217;t the only conservative here, not saying that I am one lol.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-95726</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-95726</guid>
		<description>Since I think I&#039;m about the only conservative (although Libertarian) who posts in here, I will say this....I have very, serious doubts ANY legislation will be passed to silence the press from printing the names of anyone other than minors and rape victims. 

I love freedom of speech.  Even if it means I AM the one getting railed for opening my big mouth and voicing my thoughts.  We need to be very, careful what we ask for.  I mean, if we start trying to force what can and cannot be said, it could be like opening a Pandora&#039;s Box.

That said, I agree with the poster who mentioned how eliminating the &quot;notariety&quot; of one who commits a crime for the purpose of &quot;becoming famous&quot; would have a positive impact in regard to lessening the desire to get famous in that manner.  

I cannot imagine how terrible life seemed from that kid&#039;s eyes.  Why he felt a need to impose that type of sadness on others I cannot understand.  YOu&#039;d think someone experiencing pain would NOT want others to have to feel the same.  Would be like a mother who lost her child and then wanted other mothers to know what it was like to loose their own and then go run one over.  Makes zero sense!!!  Then again, if we could make sense of it, we could probably fix/help those individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I think I&#8217;m about the only conservative (although Libertarian) who posts in here, I will say this&#8230;.I have very, serious doubts ANY legislation will be passed to silence the press from printing the names of anyone other than minors and rape victims. </p>
<p>I love freedom of speech.  Even if it means I AM the one getting railed for opening my big mouth and voicing my thoughts.  We need to be very, careful what we ask for.  I mean, if we start trying to force what can and cannot be said, it could be like opening a Pandora&#8217;s Box.</p>
<p>That said, I agree with the poster who mentioned how eliminating the &#8220;notariety&#8221; of one who commits a crime for the purpose of &#8220;becoming famous&#8221; would have a positive impact in regard to lessening the desire to get famous in that manner.  </p>
<p>I cannot imagine how terrible life seemed from that kid&#8217;s eyes.  Why he felt a need to impose that type of sadness on others I cannot understand.  YOu&#8217;d think someone experiencing pain would NOT want others to have to feel the same.  Would be like a mother who lost her child and then wanted other mothers to know what it was like to loose their own and then go run one over.  Makes zero sense!!!  Then again, if we could make sense of it, we could probably fix/help those individuals.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CJaye</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-95247</link>
		<dc:creator>CJaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-95247</guid>
		<description>YES!!!

Melissa, this is something that could be passed in the legislature?

I am not nor never have been political, I do my voting duties but I am not that good with changinging the law, so please excuse my ignorance, lol!

BUT I believe you really do have something here, and once it gets around.......even if years from now, it could save so many!!!

Some one posted from Holland they do not say the last name, only initial, however, I think UNKNOWN SUB is all any one of them should ever expect to get, dead or alive.  Ever.
NO media attention whatsoever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!!!</p>
<p>Melissa, this is something that could be passed in the legislature?</p>
<p>I am not nor never have been political, I do my voting duties but I am not that good with changinging the law, so please excuse my ignorance, lol!</p>
<p>BUT I believe you really do have something here, and once it gets around&#8230;&#8230;.even if years from now, it could save so many!!!</p>
<p>Some one posted from Holland they do not say the last name, only initial, however, I think UNKNOWN SUB is all any one of them should ever expect to get, dead or alive.  Ever.<br />
NO media attention whatsoever!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-95233</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1285#comment-95233</guid>
		<description>I totally and inherently DISAGREE.  These people see how famous previous assassins were, and they want that.  They want to be recognized.

IF the press said an UN-NAMED assassin did this, and didn&#039;t focus on them, their history etc, I do believe these cases would decrease.

I am not alone in this belief, in fact it seems that Matt and Gregg agree.  And Gavin De Becker made an entire chapter about it.

These (entirely sorry that they are sick, but they are sick) individuals are not only harmful to themselves, they are increasing this kind of attacks because the media just needs to know every bit of their history.  They WANT recognition of their pain, and it IS sad, but to take out innocents in their endeavor to just end it is whats the problem now.

The next time it happens, it should read in the media, some terribly sick loser shot up a mall and was such a pussy that he killed himself too instead of telling them why.  Why is easy.  They are mentally ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally and inherently DISAGREE.  These people see how famous previous assassins were, and they want that.  They want to be recognized.</p>
<p>IF the press said an UN-NAMED assassin did this, and didn&#8217;t focus on them, their history etc, I do believe these cases would decrease.</p>
<p>I am not alone in this belief, in fact it seems that Matt and Gregg agree.  And Gavin De Becker made an entire chapter about it.</p>
<p>These (entirely sorry that they are sick, but they are sick) individuals are not only harmful to themselves, they are increasing this kind of attacks because the media just needs to know every bit of their history.  They WANT recognition of their pain, and it IS sad, but to take out innocents in their endeavor to just end it is whats the problem now.</p>
<p>The next time it happens, it should read in the media, some terribly sick loser shot up a mall and was such a pussy that he killed himself too instead of telling them why.  Why is easy.  They are mentally ill.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
